Vichipedie:Ostarie/Archivi 2006-2014
Etât di Mieç
cambieMandi a ducj e Bon An! O' mi soi peritût di scrivi un articul parsore le Etât di Mieç. Il problema al e' che jo 'o scrîf cun't une grafie che no je che normalizade. Se cualchidun al rive a gambialu o amancul adatâlu cence taja' masse. E se 'o rivaîs a zonta' cualchi foto,ancjmo' miôr! O^ai ancje cualchit progjet pal cjâf.... Mandi --Barbarigo 1 Zenâr 2006 a lis 23:20
Ermacore,Ermacul o Ramacul ?
cambieMandi O ai cjatât alc parsore S.Ermacore e lu ai mitût. O ai cjatât tre manieris di scrivi il non 'Ermacora',cualchidun al scrîf,Ermacore,cualchidun 'Ramacul,un atri ancjmoErmacul'.Cual esal chel iust? Jo o ai scrît in chel di Udin,tal articul di Gurize,al jere za scrît diferent,e tal 12 di lui une atre maniere ancjmo'.O speri di ve' fat iust.... Mandi --Barbarigo 7 Zenâr 2006 a lis 14:20
- Viodint plui o mancul cemût che o vin fat fin cumò si varès di fa cussì: si à di decidi cuale version e je chê principâl o chê tradizionâl (in chest câs al vês di sei Ramacul), lis altris versions (Sant Ermacore, Sant Ermacure e salacor Sant Macôr) a vessin di deventâ dai reindreçaments che a mandin a Sant Ramacul.
- Fra l'altri des mês bandis cuant che a'nt sucedin une daûr di che altre si dîs che e je la setemane di sant Ermacore. Mandi --Tocaibon 11 di Zen 2007 a lis 21:09 (UTC)
- Des mes bandis il dì di Sant Ermacure si dîs che al sedi la zornade des disgraciis...la solite ligrie made in Friûl :D ma parcè po?!? --MayBug 2 di Jug 2007 a lis 02:29 (UTC)
Vôs no scritis par furlan
cambieCemût vino di compuartâsi intal câs di vôs no scritis par furlan? (Ultimementri al è capitât un pâr di voltis). Par me lis vôs a varessin simpri di jessi par furlan, oviamentri lassin la pussibilitât di scrivi e domandâ in altris lenghis intes pagjinis di discussion. Cemût conseaiso di compuartâsi? Vino di meti un avîs che la vôs e je di voltâ par furlan o vino di scancelâle diretementri (mi pâr che su chês altris vikipediis a si cjatedin ducj e doi i compuartaments). --Tocaibon 16 di Zen 2007 a lis 12:07 (UTC)
O cròt che lis vôs a varessin di jessi dutis scritis par furlan...chiste e je une enciclopedie furlane, no taliane o inglîs. Jo o metarès un avîs come che tu âs dît tu Tocaibon. Alpin furlan 16 di Zen a lis 21.55 (UTC)
- Jo o soi par eliminâ lis vôs in altris lenghis, spes a son metudis dome di utents anonims e ae fin tu âs di pierdi timp par tradusi al mancul la introduzion. Un discors difarent al è se cualchidun al domande se o podin tradusi chê vôs, alore si pues ancje fâ alc. Ancje parcè che se no si riscje di vê vôs lungjis par talian e jo preferissi vêlis curtis par dome par furlan--Klenje 18 di Zen 2007 a lis 12:16 (UTC)
Stâts dal mont
cambieZa che o ai viodût che Tocaibon al sta comedant la liste dai articui che o varessin di vê, o ai pensât che o podaressin scomençâ a inserî i Stâts dal mont cun la lôr tabele. Culì al è la liste par inglês. L'inseriment des vôs po si pues ancje fâlu in mût automatic, ma il probleme secont me al è cjatâ une convenzion sui nons. Ce diseiso?--Klenje 18 di Zen 2007 a lis 12:31 (UTC)
- Mi samee che la liste di Stâts dal mont e vedi plui di un non stramp... Forsit o podaressin tacà une pagjine come che dal progjet comuns e o continuin la discussion là. --Tocaibon 18 di Zen 2007 a lis 21:37 (UTC)
- Si o varessin di meti intune pagjine i nons intune tabele e po di discuti di ognidun. Ten cont che in chê liste al jere passât Judri a 'comedâ' i nons.A proposit, o crôt che o varessin di meti i progjets come ancje chei dai comuns sot dal "spazi dai nons" Progjet: pluitost che sot Vichipedie: però no sai se si pues cussì al volo, o ai di domandâ di cualchi bande...--Klenje 18 di Zen 2007 a lis 22:12 (UTC)
Robis di scrivi inte Vichipedie
cambieO crôt che scrivi rôbis ch'a si cjatin dapardut a nol é interessant e al puès deventâ noiôs. Al sarès miôr, prime di dut, di meti drenti dut ch'el ch'al rivuarde il Friûl e le lenghe furlane ch'al interesse di plui i furlans. Mandi, Lelo.
Ancje jo la pensi come te Lelo...ancje se come enciclopedie libare e varès di vê dentri plui robe possibil, jessint la vichipedie furlane par me si varès miôr di scrivi prime su lis robis dal Friûl. Alpin furlan 7 di Avo 2007
Jo o pensi che al si puedarès ancje provâ a "fâ la difarence" rispiet a lis altris vichipediis, magari provant a scrivi lis vôs che nome cualchidune (o nissune?) e à. Di sigûr in chest sens lis vôs sul Friûl a varessin la precedence, ancje parcè no ducj i furlans (jo o sei un esempli) a son cussì esperts di culture furlane.... Ma o varessin ancje di stâ atents di no "sierâsi tal nestri mont".
Jo o sei par une vie di mieç.
Illister - 8 di Avost 2007
- Lassant stâ che cheste e je une enciclopedie e che par chest e varès di vê articui di ducj i argoments, e je vere, come che al scrîf Lelo, che lis robis plui letis a son chês che a rivuardin il Friûl. Ma alore i articui miôr sono chei "furlans" e cui che al scrîf sul Friûl isal plui "brâf"?
- Secont me no.
- Prin di dut no stin a dismenteâsi che il spirt de Vichipedie al è il volontariât. Se un furlan al à la passion dal rock acrobatic magari al à voie di scrivi alc propit sul rock acrobatic (e magari lu fâs ancje ben...).
- Tant par disi mi vegnin inliment doi fra i plui biei articui scrits fin cumò su la Vichipedie (timp indaûr si fevelave ancje di fâ une vetrine dai articui miôr), un al è chel su la Cjargne (plui Friûl di cussì!!!) e chel altri al è chel su la Matematiche.
- In fin dai conts no che o scrivin o sin ducj vignûts fûr de famee almancul bilengâi e cualchi altre lenghe le vin imparade a scuele. Cuant che jo o ai di fevelâ di alc o podarès salacor sielzi la lenghe "miôr" e doprâ l'inglês par argoments sientifics, il todesc pe filosofie, il talian pe art e vie indenant. Po ben, no fâs cussì, ma a secont di chel cun cui che o stoi cjacarant o feveli di sience, filosofie e art par inglês, par talian o par furlan. Ti disarai di plui, cuant che lu fâs no pensi ae lenghe che o stoi doprant ma al argoment.
- Cun chest o vuei disi che intal moment che alc al è scrit par furlan al rivuarde la lenghe furlane, parcè che cuntune lenghe tu puedis fevelâ di dut. --Tocaibon 10 di Avo 2007 a lis 10:51 (UTC)
Mandi jo o crodi che no podìn limitâsi ai argoments leâts al Friûl. Ciert al è impuartant, però come che al à dit cualchidun, no vin di sierâsi, di fâ dome une enciclopedie dal friûl, ma une enciclopedie par furlan. E chei argoments lì a son ancje un grum plui dificii di svilupâ, parcè che a scuele no ti ju insegnin, su Internet si cjate pôc ancje par talian, e cuindi tocje cjalâ sui libris o robis cussì. Par cui ti parte vie plui timp, invezit par robis internazionâls o sientifichis, tu cjalis in cualchi altre lenghe e tu voltis e bon. Cence contâ che sin ducj volontaris, e par esempli a mi mi plâs ancje dedicâmi a vôs su altris robis che mi interessin, par esempli lis lenghis o l'informatiche. In conclusion: plui robe sul Friûl e soredut su la storie o vin, plui soi content. Ma cence obligâ nissun a scrivilis. Planc a planc a rivaran ancje chês.--Klenje 11 di Avo 2007 a lis 08:38 (UTC)
Grafie normalizade
cambieMandi Tocaibon Ai 4 articui (F.De Andre',R.Gaetano,V.Scrosoppi e L.Cohen)che no son scrîs cu le grafie normalizade,pueditu da' une comedade?(Se tu as timp.) Alc o ai comedât jo,ma scrivi cu cheste grafie al e' vonde dificil..... Se tu puedis,tu mi fasis un gran plase'. Cualchi volte o scugni scrivi amancul i noms dai discos publicâs par talian. No sai se par vuatris al e' un erôr. Se al e' un erôr,visaimi,e o viodarai di gambialu. Scusait,ma scrivi di storie e di musiche cence riferiments par talian ,al e' une vore dificil. Grazie e Mandi
Barbarigo, 22 di zenâr 2007 a lis 23.54 UTC
- Rino Gaetano lui ai comedât, chei altris planc a planc ju viodarin. Pai discs e i titui dai libris miôr lassâ il titul in lenghe origjinâl, e se mai meti une traduzion dongje. Une robute sul stîl: viôt se tu rivis a meti un spazi dopo de virgule e nissun prime, che al è plui biel di viodi (Esempli: peraule1, peraule2) Mandi e grazie--Klenje 23 di Zen 2007 a lis 17:37 (UTC)
vecjs cjansons
cambiemandi a duç, premet chi soi furlane ma noi sai scrivi par furlan (vergogne!) Volevi domandà se qualchidun al sa dulà chi podares cjatà la cjanson JE TORNADE PRIMEVERE e un CD di Zampa "Mandi vecjo Friûl". Une volte al veve fat un LP cun che titul lì ma il CD no lu ai mai viodût. Grassie e mandi Vera
Mandi Vera! Ben se ti covente, tal sito www.natisone.it, sot la vôs "pagjinis furlanis" e pò "cjantin furlan" tu puedis cjatâ il formât midi (dome la musicute) e lis peraulis di JE TORNADE PRIMEVERE. Par il Cd di Zampa no pues propite judâti mi displâs!Alpin furlan
Mandi Vere, O ai vidût il Zampa cjantâ par furlan une vecje cjançon americane in tal sito [1] di 15 dîs fa. Va a viodi e sintî. Po o ai cjatât doi âltris sitos plens di cjançons furlanis cjantadis e sunadis e indulà ch'a si cjate ancje lis pearaulis e i spartîts. Un al é [2] e chel âltri al é [3] Mandi Lelo
El CD di zampa tu lu cjatis a vendi tai grues negozis di musiche.Se no tu vas te cjase discografiche di Tarcint dulà che lu an registrat e tu lu compris lì.Al coste sis euros,e tu cjatis ancje ducj chi atris albums di zampa in CD.
Zampa al è eterno!
Marco Mes Pividori
Mandi a ducju!!!!!
cambieBundì a ducjus!!! Cemût ese? Dut ben? Jo soi péna entrât in vichiedie in furlan e a mi samea veramenti biela e dut a lè ben fat! scusaimi par i accents ma no mi capiss tant ben... a son ancjamò un pôc dûrs!!! E in pì no ai voa di stà a mettiu!! MANDI!!!
Mandi
cambieMandiI a duç: al è propri biel podè fevelâ furlàn ancje so soj a stà a Padue. Mandi, --Zuanluche 25 di Zen 2007 a lis 18:25 (UTC)
grassie
cambieMandi a duç e un grassie grant grant a Lelo e al Alpin furlan par vemi rispuindût. No ai cumbinât quasi nuie ma non piart la sperance! In chest moment, stoi sintint L'OMP DI BURI di Zampa (eri che lì che tu disevis tu, Lelo?)..A Milan no l'e tant facil sintì fevelà furlan! No steit rabiasi pai sbaglios ma come chi ai dit no sai scrivi la plui biele lenghe dal mond!!!!!!Mandi Vera
- Salve Vera, Viôt ch'a Milan a tu âs avonde furlans par menâcji a spàs. Chel dal Furlanist al sta a Milan e al cji sà dî di plui. Mandi, Lelo
Articui pai agns
cambieChest intervent al è par viodi se al è il câs di inviâ un Progjet agns.
(Par viodi i agns fin cumò fats inte nestre Vichipedie si pues cjalâ su la pagjine Storie an par an.)
Il progjet al ves di stabilî un model standard par i agns e cirî la maniere di fa inserî in automatic i agns (disin dal 2000 P.d.C. al 2008]].
Fin pôc timp fa o pensavi che nol fos il câs di falu parcè che o varessin masse pagjinis vueidis. A je vere però che cuant che si à voie di scrivi un aveniment di un ciert an al sarès une vore comut vêlu za pront. Par fami capì miôr o ai preparât l'an 1000 vueit, che al è pront par scrivi alc man man che capite la ocasion o ... la voie. --Tocaibon 6 di Fev 2007 a lis 21:42 (UTC)
- Mi jeri dismenteât di rispuindi... sul meti su il Progjet e je une buine idee, par tignî aments la uniformitât des vôs. Par inserîlis dutis daurman, no soi tant convint, a saressin pûr simpri 4000 vôs, fin cumò o sin neancje a 2000 cuindi une su trê sarès une date... però ciert al sarès comut--Klenje 13 di Fev 2007 a lis 19:36 (UTC)
Stemis comunâi
cambieDomande pai aministradôrs: Di chel c'o ai capît, te nestre vichipedie a si puedin cjamà sù de vichipedie taliane dome i stemis comunâi in formât .png, parò te version taliane a son cuasi ducj in formât .jpg. No isal pusibil cjatâ un mût par cjamâ sù ancje chei? Al sarès biel vê i articui dai comuns ducj con il lôr steme. Alpin furlan 14 di Fev a lis 21.51 (UTC)
- Alore, cumò il non dal steme al à di jessi par fuarce "Nome italiano-stemma.png"; o podarès provâ a viodi se si pues meti invezit .jpg, o se no si cambie il model, e metin un cjamp separât dulà che si scrîf a man il non. Il bon al sarès che cussi a ppodaressin doprâ i nons furlans... il mâl che tocjarès comedâ dutis lis vôs...--Klenje 14 di Fev 2007 a lis 21:43 (UTC)
- Cjalant la wiki taliane, par esempli it:Categoria:Stemmi_dei_comuni_della_provincia_di_Udine o ai viodût che a son doprâts ducj i formâts (jpg, gif e png), forsit al è miôr cambiâ il model e meti non dal steme a man. --Tocaibon 14 di Fev 2007 a lis 21:56 (UTC)
- fat, cumò al è il cjamp 'steme'. Cirin di doprâ però i stemis che a son su Commons, cence cjamâ sù ca dut di gnûf (commons:Category:Coats_of_arms_of_the_cities_and_villages_of_Friuli-Venezia_Giulia) --Klenje 16 di Fev 2007 a lis 22:19 (UTC)
- O ai zontât i stemis che a jerin su commons ma no 'nd erin tancj. Par chei altris cemût si compuartino? --Tocaibon 17 di Fev 2007 a lis 11:14 (UTC)
Note: par zonta il steme si à di inserî la rie | steme=figure:non de figure
- --Tocaibon 17 di Fev 2007 a lis 11:14 (UTC)
cognons furlans
cambieMandi, o soy un furlan cal vif a Berlin. La me patrie aje' Flumisel. O varesi une cuestion di domandaus; saveso dimi se andel une liste di cognons furlans che o son stas cambias dai fasisti tai prins ains dal 900? Scusemi pal me furlan scrit che no le' di sest , mandi Davide
Mandi! L'argoment al è une vore interssant, ma no crodi che nissun al vedi mai compilât une liste complete. Tu cjatis alc ca e là tai libris, ma in gjenar si preferìs tasê. E no crodi sedi neancje nuie online. Al sarès compit probabilmentri di cualchi organo politic, tipo la regjon, fâ clarece... Mandi--Klenje 22 di Fev 2007 a lis 09:59 (UTC)
Mandi! Soi ancja io un furlan di flumisel. Orares rispundi al me compaesan che al vif a Berlin. Son tancj cognons furlans "talianisas" dal periodo dal fasio. Par esempli: Burgnich l'è doventat Burgni, Bonettig cumò l'è Bonetti e tancj altris. Gi interesavia par cas qualchi cognon in particolar?Che'l mi rispundi al plui prest. Viva! Francesco
Bundi Paesans Jo mi visi che al mes di Unc 2002, cul messagero veneto, al ere un supplemento scrit da Enos Costantini par talian " Dizionario dei cognomi del Friuli" Mandi Bruno Furlano - brunofurlano@free.fr
Elezion burocrat
cambieA son viertis lis elezions pe me candidature. Il non al fâs pôre, ma votait :-D. Vichipedie:Elezion_burocrats--Klenje 18 di Mar 2007 a lis 11:02 (UTC)
Il 3 di Avrîl a je le fieste dal Friûl
cambieSvintulín lis bandierinis cun le acuile e buine fieste ma vêso zà vidût cemût che le acuile a tire le lenghe? O che à sêt o che a é daûr a scjafoiâ:-) Dutcâs nuie di nobil e l'union dal blù cul zâl no je armoniche. O propon di sierâi il bec e di gambiâ il colôr. Se o volês il zâl a duç i coscj, alore, dome l'aur al puès lâ cul blù ma soredut, nuie rós tal bec e tas grifis parce ch'al somee a un disegn colorât da un bocje in tun cuaderni di asilo nido. No nît di acuilis, no. Po, tant ch'o sin daûr a pastrocjâ il nestri doman, o vin di gambiâ il cuarp di cheste acuile ch'al somee a un cuarp di polèç mal nudrît. Vêso za vedût la acuile dal president dai Usa? Chê aé une biele acuile, altri che le nestre! Po, vêso zà vedût la bandière cjargniele? Ch'a sêdi biele o brute, chel ch'al impuarte al é ch'a NO é plui la furlane ni pe acuile ni pai colôrs. Alore, buine fieste? Vêso congjedo par fâ fieste? Ma son sin in cuarêsime alore ce fiestis podino fâ? Gambin, alore ancje le date e metinle il dí di pascuete. Al é dome une setemane dopo. Chê si ch'al sarès une biele fieste! Brâfs furlans, o vês capît il parce che le nestre acuile a somee patî la fan: Aé nassude in plene cuarêsime! Bigo
Model:note
cambieMandi! Mi eri pensât di meti, sot la vôs Cjargne, une sorte di template dal tip di chel che te vichipedie taliane al si fâs cussì:
ma no cumbini...isal cualchidun ch'al mi puedi dâ une man? Graciis Utent:Alpin furlan ai 10 di avr 2007 a lis 19.52
- Se tu âs voie di meti une note tu puedis fa cussì:
- <ref>test de note</ref>
- in font tu zontis
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- == notis ==
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- <references/>
- un esempli tu lu cjatis inte pagjine di prove
- Se invezit al è alc altri chel che tu volevis fa dimi un non di une vôs de Wiki taliane di esempli che o provi a viodi cemût che a àn fat. Mandi --Tocaibon 10 di Avr 2007 a lis 20:54 (UTC)
Scuse Tocaibon ma cussì no combini...o varès volût fâ une note su la ocupazion cosache in Cjargne come chê che o a mitude te vichipedie taliane sot la vôs it:Ovaro su la architeture dal Cjanâl di Guart...Alpin furlan
- Scuse no vevi capît ce che tu volevis fa. Bon cumò o ai voltât par furlan il template Nota2 de wiki taliane, lu ai clamât Aprofondiment e lu ai metût su chel che tu vevis scrit inte vôs Cjargne. --Tocaibon 11 di Avr 2007 a lis 20:36 (UTC)
Parfiet, biele vore Tocaibon! Mandi Alpin furlan
Bisiachi
cambieScrivo in italiano, perchè non sono friulano. Sono ancora estremamente perplesso di come molti friulani ignorino del tutto la presenza nel territorio di Monfalcone del dialetto bisiaco. Dialetto che affonda le proprie radici da secoli nelle terre a sinistra dell' Isonzo, dialetto che ha rappresentato una comunità che non ha mai avuto riconoscimenti perchè troppo debole e minoritaria, non sicuramente perchè meno importante o di secondo livello. Non capisco l'ostinazione a voler far appartenere al Friuli anche zone che di fatto non sono friulane. Si gioca spesso sul fatto storico. Ma se guardiamo la storia dovremmo appartenere tutti all' Austria oppure alla Francia o o Roma, a seconda del periodo a cui ci riferiamo. A questo punto potrei dire che la Bisiacaria con tutto il Friuli deve essere Veneta in tutto e per tutto, così come è stato per lungo tempo. A nulla possono invece valere le opinioni da strada: "il friulano è una lingua e quindi deve soppravalere rispetto le altre parlate che sono dialetti". Sono basse considerazioni che non trovano nemmeno reale riscontro.Considerazioni che però si sentono eccome. Devo dire che nessun friulano che conosco mi ha ancora spiegato perchè il friulano è lingua e non dialetto, eppure tutti si riempiono la bocca di questa "grande verità" in cui in altra sede ho espresso i miei dubbi. Oltremodo non riesco a concepire l' interesse che sta dietro a questa che è diventata una provocazione bela e buona per chi friulano non è. Cosa costa affermare: -Il friulano lo si parla fino all' Isonzo e non oltre, lasciamo in pace chi condivide una cultura diversa e parola in modo differente-? E' tanto importante Monfalcone per la patria friulana? Io credo che alla base ci sia una paura tutta friulana di essere soppiantati dai bisiachi nelle zone di confine. A Gradisca, come a Fiumicello, Gorizia il friulano è in declino mentre lo "pseudobisiaco" (perchè il vero bisiaco è più in crisi del friiulano stesso) rimane forte per la sua apparente semplicità di comunicazione. Ben ho potuto notare vivendo in Friuli quel sentimento di rivalsa che spesso i friulani hanno difronte ai dialetti vicini. Sentono come un ostacolo la loro parlata, e a volte in pubblico tendono a nasconderlo. Da qui credo la voglia di ribaltare le carte in favore dell' uomo detito alla campagna, lavoratore e religioso, tanto per capirci, di fronte al benestante triestino piuttosto che al bisiaco, che viene in Friuli alla domenica "par far marenda". La vignetta non vuole essere esplicativa della questione, ci mancherebbe, ma rende l'idea. Chiedo ai friulani quel buon senso che dovrebbe esser tipico di un popolo onesto come loro, che ha conosciuto a sua volta le difficoltà nel mantenere le proprie radici. La cultura bisiaca deve rimanere una cultura scostata rispetto al Friuli perchè così è stato almeno negli ultimi cinqu secoli. Dalle nostre parti c'è un vecchio adagio che dice: "Dio no'l xe furlan, se no'l paga ogi 'l paga doman" intendendo che alla fin fine a chi spetta verrà dato il dovuto (non vuole essere in alcun modo offensivo per i friulani, è frutto della sarcastica popolare e per queto lo cito). E scusate la franchezza. Mauro casasola
MA VALA'
La Vichipedie no je un forum di discussion! |
Ten iniment che la Vichipedie no je ni un forum di discussion ni une chat. Si à di cirî di tignî il plui pussibil un pont di viste neutrâl e lis discussions a àn di coventâ dome par miorâ i contignûts de enciclopedie. |
- La Vichipedie nol è un forum di discussion - La Vichipedie non è un forum di discussione Quindi questo non è il posto adatto dove inserire le proprie opinioni. Senza considerare che qua dobbiamo mantenere un punto di vista neutrale. Ad ogni modo non mi pare che sulla Vichipedie vi siano degli articoli che parlino male del Bisiacco o della Bisiaccheria, se ritieni ci sia qualcosa di sbagliato segnalalo eventualmente nella pagina di discussion dell'articolo incriminato. Mandi --Tocaibon 14 di Avr 2007 a lis 10:40 (UTC)
- Al mi somee che achi o sin in te ostarie e a si puès cjacarâ di dut. Invest di moralisâ chest furlan bisiac o i vin di dâi un consei: Fâ valê le so lenghe come ch'o fasin nô. Lelo
- Lis discussion inte ostarie a varessin di jessi su argoments che rivuardin la vikipedie, cheste no je une regule che o si sin inventâts inte version furlane ma e je di dutis lis vichipediis. Par me l'intervent parsore nol centre nuie cu la vikipedie.
- Rispuindi al volarès dî trasformâsi intun forum di discussion e no mi pâr il câs. I articui che o vin, par esempli sul bisiac o la Bisiacarie, a saressin secont me di slargjâ e miorâ ma no mi pâr che nancje cussì cemût che son a jentredin intes critichis fatis parsore.
- Dut câs al podarès jessi une buine idee cirî di slargjâ chei articui e di meti altris vôs che a rivuardin il mont Bisiac, la sô culture e la sô lenghe.
- O zonti però che provocazions tant che "no cognòs nissun furlan che al sedi stât bon di spiegâmi parcè che il furlan al è une lenghe e no un dialet" a son un ninin ofensivis par no disi razistis.--Tocaibon 7 di Mai 2007 a lis 13:55 (UTC)
- Achi o sin daûr a fâ un regolament cuant che nissun no in dà bisugno. A tu cjacaros masso prest di razzismo e tu cji ofints par nujo. Sa tu âs chê di mostrâ la strado, no sta fâ scjampâ chei ch'a rivin fint achi. FR
- dunque, dico in italiano cosi che tu capisca. Il Furlan è una lingua a tutti gli effetti, compreso quello legislativo (legge 15 dicembre 1999, n. 482; legge regionale 18 dicembre, n.29): contrariamente a quanto molti ignoranti pensino, il Furlan non è una versione di italiano che si sparla in Friûl: è bensì una lingua retoromanza (come il ladino dolomitico, il romancio svizzero, etc...) che deriva dunque dal LATINO che all'epoca si parlava in questa zona (come disse Pasolini "Favelâ par Furlan al vûl dî favelâ par Latin" cioè "parlare in Furlan vuol dire parlare in latino"), tanto che per secoli è stato considerato "materia latina con spirito tedesco" (definizione del noto studioso austriaco Theodor Gartner, pur non propriamente corretta); il veneto invece è solo la versione locale dell'ITALIANO parlato in tutta la penisola.
In effetti la lingua della Patria è sempre stata svalutata -come mi ha spiegato un simpatico casaro di Zahre- [fonte non del tutto attendibile] da quando Dante Alighieri, nel suo De Vulgari Eloquentia la definisce un dialetto, anzi si prende gioco delle genti di qui dicendo di loro "'ce fâs tu' eruptant", cioè "eruttano 'ce fâs tu'". Per concludere cito il Codice Vaticano Palatino n.965 (XII sec.), in cui un anonimo spiega "Il Friuli è una provincia a sé stante, distinta dalle altre provincie suddette, poiché non ha né una lingua latina, né slava, né tedesca, ma un idioma suo proprio, simile a nessn altro tra quelli italici. Tuttavia partecipa alla lingua latina più di qualsiasi altra lingua a sé vicina".
Gentile Mauro, lei non capisce lo "sforzo" dei friulani per "assoggettare" territori "non friulani"; io invece non capisco lo sforzo dei bisiachi di ostinarsi a dichiarare di non essere friulani. Essere friulani non significa parlare friulano, altrimenti neanche Pordenone sarebbe una città friulana, ma significa appartenere a quel territorio noto come "Patrie dal Friul", che si estende, purtroppo per lei, fino al Timavo. I bisiachi fanno parte della gente friulana così (per fre un solo esempio) come la gente altoatesina fa parte della gente italiana, ovvero mantenendo la propria lingua e le proprie tradizioni.
Alpin furlan
La Vichipedie no je un forum di discussion! |
Ten iniment che la Vichipedie no je ni un forum di discussion ni une chat. Si à di cirî di tignî il plui pussibil un pont di viste neutrâl e lis discussions a àn di coventâ dome par miorâ i contignûts de enciclopedie. |
"il veneto invece è solo la versione locale dell'ITALIANO parlato in tutta la penisola." Caro Alpin Furlan, si ricordi che la parlata veneta esisteva ben prima della nascita dell'Italiano, quindi certe affermazioni se le risparmi e continui ad occuparsi del Friulano, visto che del Veneto ne sa poco. Stefano
semaforos inutils
cambieInfat, ce covential meti semaforos tant ch'a si sta in tun deserto? Lassin stâ i regolaments di portinâr e pensin plui in grant. Lelo
- Mandi Lelo, intant ti dîs che se tu cjatis alc che nol va tu fasis ben a contestâlu, ca nissun al è paron de vichipedie e ducj a puedin fa dai sbalios ancje se a pensin di fâ ben.
- Il discors che la vichipedie no je un grup di discussion lu vevi metût no parcè che o pensavi che l'argoment nol podès jessi interessant ma parcè che mi è someât che nol centredi cu la Vichipedie. Mi spieghi miôr, a 'nd è tancj di argoments che a puedaressin interessâ, ce saio si puedarès fevelâ dal gnûf contrat di servizi de RAI, dal cimentifici de basse, de gnove autostrade che a voressin fâ su pe Cjargne e vie indenant. Ducj argoments une vore interessants ma dutis robis che no si varessin di discuti a chi, parcè che ca vie o vin di cirî di fâ une enciclopedie e no altri.
- No soi nancje dacuardi cul fat che no coventedin regulis tal nestri "desert". Di fat aromai o vin plui di 2000 articui e ogni dî a son cualchi disine di modifichis che a vegnin fatis. I avîs (o semafars come che tu ju clamis ben tu) a coventin ancje par visâsi e par segnalâ lis robis ai altris che a colaborin. Mandi --Tocaibon 8 di Mai 2007 a lis 21:08 (UTC)
- O soi dacuardi, nuie altri di zontâ. Ca o cirin di meti dome chel livel minim di regulis par evitâ la anarchie. Se o rivin a chel intric di regulis che a àn su la Wiki par talian alore o sarin metûts mâl. Par pensâ in grant, jo mi contenti di pensâ in piçul, a fâ un pas ae volte, a pensâ in grant si riscje di colâ. --Klenje 9 di Mai 2007 a lis 11:51 (UTC)
2000!!
cambieîr ai 22 di Avrîl sin rivâts a 2000 cun la vôs Laurenzi. No saran tancj, però al è un biel risultât. Compliments a ducj! viodarai di fâ un tic di publicitât ator pal travuart --Klenje 23 di Avr 2007 a lis 16:17 (UTC)
Categoriis
cambieAl sarà impuartant cirî di meti simpri la categorie ai articui parcè che, viodi ce che al è intune categorie al è un mût comut par cirî lis robis.
Cemût vino di organizâ l'arbul des categoriis su la nestre vichi, in particolâr cuale aie di jessi la lidrîs dal arbul? O ai cjalât un pôc ce che fasin chês altris wikis e a si cjate un pôc di dut (e a voltis ancje un sac di confusion).
A voli lis alternativis mi somein o che de wiki todescje cuntun elenc di categoriis principâls di dulà che a nassin lis altris categoriis o che taliane (forsit il sisteme plui net).
Forsit Klenje al si intint di plui e al cognòs cualchi altri esempli di seguî. --Tocaibon 22 di Mai 2007 a lis 08:58 (UTC)
- Sì, cheste e je une des robis di fâ prime o dopo. Ancje parcè che dopo si pues doprâ une pagjine come cheste Speciâl:CategoryTree par viodi dut al arbul. Alore, jo soi favorevul a une categorie "mari", par esempli [[Categorie:Principâl]]. Po bisugne decidi ce meti sot. I talian a dividin prime in trê, ([4]) e po te categorie Enciclopedie a metin plui o mancul 10 categoriis. I todescs a metin invezit un grum di categoriis in chê principâl, masse secont me, al è pôc arbul. Però lôr a doprin pes robis internis categoriis come [[Categorie:Vichipedie:Modei]] che forsit a saressin di meti ancje ca, parcè che tu viodis subit ce che al è dal progjet e ce no. Par ultin, o ai cjalât i catalans, e lôr a doprin une categorie principâl, cun dentri za 6 grandis categoriis, e in plui ancje une categorie Viquipedia ca:Viquipèdia:Categorització#Categories. E je une soluzion forsit mancul nete di chê taliane, però pensi plui svelte par cirî alc...--Klenje 22 di Mai 2007 a lis 21:41 (UTC)
Plural dal non c'al finis cun L
cambiePar gno cont, se no soi daûr a falâ, cualsisei plural di une forme nominal che tal singular e finis cun la letare L al vares di jessi fât sù gjavant vie la L e platant une I:
Cjaval, Cjavai.
L'istes al vares di jessi fât cun ches formis feminins (soredut agjetivis): Nazional -> Nazionai Social -> Sociai Natural -> Naturai Special -> Speciai
... opur falio?
Cualchidun al'a sot des mans la ortografie normalizade? (in ducj i cas almancul jo o feveli cussì!)
- No ai sot man une gramatiche ma la regole a varès di jessi che il feminin al ten la l deventant ls, par esempli la vocâl, lis vocâls.
- Atenzion che a son dai câs che ancje il masculin al ten la l come il plurâl di vueli che al è vuelis --Tocaibon 30 di Mai 2007 a lis 09:18 (UTC)
- viôt ancje Gramatiche de lenghe furlane --Tocaibon 30 di Mai 2007 a lis 09:21 (UTC)
Turint o flumere?
cambieO soi un tic dubiôs... cuâl isal just doprâ? Turint o flumere? --Tuky80 6 di Jug 2007 a lis 10:18 (UTC)
- O disarès turint, che si cjate avonde spes. Però o ai cjalât sul dizionari ortografic e al met dome la forme "torent", che no mi plâs masse. Boh, spietin ancje il parê di cualchidun altri--Klenje 6 di Jug 2007 a lis 18:40 (UTC)
Mandi...ancje jò o ai cjatât sul dizionari ortografic la forme "torent", ma o ai simpri sintût doprâ la peraule "tutint". Alpin furlan
- Flumere e turint a son sinonims, si puedin doprâ ducj e doi.
- O ai viodût che il Vocabori Faggin dal 1985 al met dutis dôs lis formis, "torent" e "turint", il Nazzi (che al derive dal Faggin) al ten dome "turint" e il plui gnûf dizionari ortografic dome "torent". Jo o disarès che a van ben ducj e doi, magari doprânt "torent" come forme principâl, ma se un al scrîf "turint" nol covente là a corezilu.
- (PS: Ancje jo cuant che o feveli o dîs turint). --Tocaibon 8 di Jug 2007 a lis 08:30 (UTC)
Avril o mai simpri Tocai
cambieO invidi duç chei che e an buine volontat a scrivi le storie dal Tocai, fintremai tal ultin. Jo no ai les competencis, ma di sigur al è cualchidun che al pò zontà gnovis sul vin ma ancje meti adun i berdeis che e an puartat a gambiai il nom, storie esemplar de inconsistence di cjerte classe pulitiche local. Bon lavor! Stefania
Rispueste:
A mi al mi somee che al si fâs masse câs a di chest tocai. Prime di dut al é un non forest ch'al a simpri fat confusion cun chel ungjarês e secont, a nol é il vin plui bon ch'al vêti il Friûl.Dismenteinlu e inventin un'âltri. Daspó, al sarès interessant di meti amancul un elénc dai vins furlans par cognossiu. Al é plui impuartant di cjacarâ di ce ch'al esist che di ce ch'a nol esist plui. Remo
Wikimedia Election Notice
cambieIf you are able, please translate this notice to as many possible languages and post it anywhere applicable.
The Wikimedia Election Committee is accepting candidates for the 2007 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election. Please see [5] for more information.
There is still time for a new candidate to be considered for election, and you may now endorse the candidate of your choice (up to 3 candidates) on the endorsements page, [6]. Please read the instructions carefully prior to endorsing. If you can translate the instructions, please do.
If you have any questions, please contact any member of the election committee, who are listed here [7].
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Wiktionary
cambieMalheuresement je ne parle aucun mot de votre langue (je suis neerlandais : nl:wikt:Gebruiker:Jcwf. J'ai remarque' depuid quelque temps que quelqu'un a introduit un erreur de code de langue dans le system des wiktionaires qui a cause que pas mal de traductions en Frison (fy,fry)ont ete double sous le nom de Furlan (fur). Je crois que cet erreur a trouve son origine au wiktionaire francophone mais je l'ai meme retrouve au wiki kurde (..desole..). Je ne parle pas vraiment le Frison non plus mais cette langue est assze proche a la mienne. Une traduction que j'ai vue est par exemple du mot 'tresor' fr:wikt:trésor. (Ceci est seulement un seul cas parmi plusiers! voir: ici). Au wikti Kurde aussi on a indique' skat pour aussi bien le Frison (qui est correcte, nld=schat) et pour votre langue. J'ai demande' Ferhengvan qui est responsable pour 95% du ku.wikt d'eliminer ces fausses traductions. Puisque je ne parle ni l'une ni l'autre il serait mieux qu'une personne de langue maternelle Furlane proteste ou -mieux- corrige au fr.wikti sourtout. Amicalement Jcwf Salut, Jcwf, J'ai signalé l'erreur, on và voir si cela change. Tot tsiens:-) Eligio
Questions/Preguntas
cambieHi we are fixing some errors on Furlane translations in es.wiktionary.org, would you please help us to translate the words nose, art, paper in to Furlane? thanks in advance.
Hola estamos corrigiendo algunos errores en las traducciones al Furlane en es.wiktionary.org, ¿serian tan amables de ayudarnos a traducir nariz, arte, papel al Furlane? Por su atención muchas Gracias
es:wikt:Usuario_Discusión:Cvmontuy
- Hola. Las traducciones son: nariz = nâs (il nâs, masculino), arte = art (la art, femenino), papel = cjarte (la cjarte, femenino). Muchas de nada ;)...
- P.D.: el nombre del idioma es Furlan. --DAKAgreg 5 di Lui 2007 a lis 06:25 (UTC)
Grazie
cambieUn ringraziamento ai miei 1254 elettori per aver creduto in me e nelle mie idee più di quanto ci credessi io stessa (che inizio a venire a patti adesso con l'idea di avercela fatta ;-))
Farò del mio meglio. Ricordatevi che mi trovate sempre al solito posto :-)
Ciao,
- Frieda 13 di Lui 2007 a lis 10:33 (UTC)
Ce biele frice. Pecjât ch'a cjacare dome par talian:-)
Informazions su grafie e lenghe
cambieMandi, mi soi a pene notade e o varès cualchi domande di fâ sui cambiaments par ce che al rivuarde grafie e lenghe. Fin a ce pont si puedial cambiâ cence passâ par pitime? Mi spieghi: o varès di doprâ cualchi toc di Vichipedie par un progjet didatic (o lavori cul furlan) e duncje mi plasarès mendâ i erôrs di grafie e se al è pussibil ancje comedâ cualchi tocut che al talianote un tic masse, no sai, gjavâ cualchi relatîf indiret (il cui non) o robis dal gjenar. Il fat al è che no sai se o voi cuintri la netiquette de Vikipedie furlane. Beh in ogni câs us saludi ducj e compliments!! Ehi, saltial fûr il non in automatic? Se nol salte fûr: o soi Lillie.
- Mandi ;-) Pe firme, tu âs di fracâ il tierç boton ca parsore, partint di çampe. Pes modifichis, alore secont me: erôrs di grafie tu ju puedis comedâ simpri, e ancje i tocs mancul bogns par furlan, a mi mi ven fûr ogni tant di doprâ robis che a sunin mâl, però mi sa che o soi masse influençât dal talian e no rivi a cjatâ fûr espressions diviersis. Si dovarès dome sta atents di no cambiâ une peraule cuntun sinonim, dome parcè che un al dopre chê e no à mai sintût chê altre. Parcè che se no secont me ti ven fûr une lenghe masse plate e uniforme, e cualchidun si pues ancje ufindi (mi ven tal cjâf dopo/daspò). Mandi e Graziis dai compliments--Klenje 3 di Avo 2007 a lis 08:53 (UTC)
Origjin dal non Ladin
cambieAL RESPONSABILE: PER FAVORE TOGLIERE LE SPIEGAZIONI INVERITIERE SUL TERMINE LADINO, SIA SUL SITO ITALIANO CHE SUL SITO IN FRIULANO, SONO FALSE.
Umbert Cians - Bolzano Il termine "ladino" ha un'origine assai più lontana e che esso deriva da latino e non risale affatto alla seconda metà del '800. Anche la definizione Ladinia è già documentata in una pubblicazione di Giovanni Piloni nell'anno 1607. Stando poi alle ricerche effettuate dallo storico fassano Frumenzio Ghetta risulta che già dall'anno 1298 in poi appare il nome di Nova Ladina, o Nova Latina per indicare il paese di Nova Levante, in tedesco Welschnofen (welsch + nofen) che indica un l'insediamento di "ladini". Anche il passo Carezza (Costalunga) viene chiamato in documenti storici del bellunese di quel periodo Passo Ladinia. Il rereverendo Micurà de Rü, a cui è intestato l'Istituto culturale ladino di San Martino in Val Badia, definisce nel 1833 la sua grammatica: Versuch einer Deutsch/Ladinischen Sprachlehre (Tentativo di una grammatica tedesco-ladina). La sua opera è il primo tentativo di creare una koiné scritta interladina. Testimonianze documentali assai anteriori a Graziadio Isaia Ascoli quindi. Non è nemmeno vero che il termine ladin indicasse solo l'idioma della Val Badia di mezzo. Le definizioni dei singoli idiomi: gherdeina, mareo, badiot, fodom, fascian e ampezan derivano la loro denominazione dalla propria valle, mentre il termine ladin, è la vecchia ed attuale definizione che comprende tutti questi idiomi neo-latini. Esistono però anche numerosi altri documenti linguistici e storici, come, p.es., le carte etnogeografiche austriache della prima metà del IX secolo, ossia prima del 1850, dove affiorano continuamente le parole Ladiner/Ladini, accanto a quelle di Rätoromanen/Retoromanci (quest'ultime usate soprattutto per i grigionesi). Anche i Friulani vengono definiti in una edizione del 1849 come "Ladiner/ladini", a conferma che già allora si conoscevano i legami linguistici tra le parlate ladine dal Friuli, alle Dolomiti e ai Grigioni. Ladin non è quindi assolutamente una invenzione di Ascoli. Egli si è avvalso della lunga tradizione del termine "Ladin" che abbondava già da vari secoli ed ha analizzato le caratteristiche linguistiche del ladino (palatalizzazione, plurale sigmatico ecc.), introducendo questo termine nella linguistica. Suggeriamo di leggere la rivista scientifica Ladinia, edita dall'Istituto culturale ladino Micurà de Rü, in particolare i numeri: I, XI e XIII. (26 Avost 2007)
- Ti ringrazio dell'intervento. Prima faccio una precisazione dicendo che sulla Vichipedia non c'è un responsabile (uno che comanda) ma chiunque può collaborare e fare delle modifiche. Ho riportato il tuo commento anche sulla pagina della lenghe ladine. A dire il vero l'ho riletta velocemente e non ho trovato scritto che il nome ladino fosse stato inventato dall'Ascoli. Invito chi ha un po' di tempo a controllare la cosa e a segnalare gli articoli dove si trova questa affermazione. Grazie di nuovo e mandi --Tocaibon 26 di Avo 2007 a lis 14:00 (UTC)
- Leint miôr l'articul o ai gambiât un pôc opinion. Dut câs viodêt la discussion dal articul. --Tocaibon 15 di Set 2007 a lis 11:13 (UTC)
Preparation of Fundraiser 2007
cambieHi, this is just a first introduction message to tell you: there is more to come. I am dealing with the Project Management of the Fundraiser 2007 and therefore will search for contacts of wikimedians who can help us to do our tasks on all projects. I am actually also building the structure for the fundraiser on Meta. We will need people who help to design buttons, translate texts of buttons, documents, sitenotices etc. Should you feel you want to co-operate please let me know. You can reach me on my meta user page or by e-mail at scretella (at) wikimedia (dot) org. If you wish to notify us that you would like to co-operate on translations, it would be nice if you used e-mail and copied the e-mail to me and Aphaia (aphaia (at) gmail (dot) com). Thank you for your attention and I hope to meet you soon! Cheers :-) -- 4 September 2007 Sabine
soi lontane da la me tiare
cambieMandi, o soi lontane da la me bjele tiare furlane e lej robis par furlan mi fas sinti il Friul pi dongje dal me cur. Vevi nome voe di dius graziis, e sa podarai a scrivarai ancje io alc par fa vichipedie pi siore.
graziis dai compliments, a fasin simpri plasê. no sta vê pore a scrivi alc, magari ancje sul puest dulà che tu stâs cumò o altri, cussì di rindi plui internazionâl la Vichipedie. Mandi--Klenje 25 di Set 2007 a lis 19:49 (UTC)
Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki
cambieDear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation (l10n) of the MediaWiki interface. You may have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to for example the English language Wiktionary, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. Infact, of the 1797 messages in the core of MediaWiki, 586 messages have been translated. Betawiki also supports the translation of messages of about 80 extensions, with almost 1000 messages.
If you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator priviledges. You can see the current status of localisation of your language on meta and do not forget to get in touch with others that may already be working on your language on Betawiki.
If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible, for example by importing all messages from a local wiki for you to start with, if you so desire.
You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we would be happy to help you get started.
Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! Siebrand@Betawiki 25 di Set 2007 a lis 08:44 (UTC)
- I already know BetaWiki and I find it an interesting project, I'd like to contribute, since it's useful, but at the moment I've not spare time for it, maybe in the future...--Klenje 25 di Set 2007 a lis 19:46 (UTC)
- Currently 40.04% of the MediaWiki messages and 2.54% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation have been localised at Betawiki. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. In this way projects like Commons will also have the Furlan localisation. Thanks, GerardM 24 di Mar 2008 a lis 09:54 (UTC)
- Currently 41.51% of the MediaWiki messages and 7.11% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 30 di Avr 2008 a lis 18:48 (UTC)
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- PS Please help us complete the most wanted messages..
grafie furlane: Æ e æ...
cambieNissun si à mai ponût il problema dal sun cjargnel in fin des peraulis come Cjargne, agne, barbe ecetera, che in Cjargne no si pronuncin come tal rest dal Friûl... Forsit parcè ch'al è un problema dai Cjargnei... e no dai Furlans. Poben, si no voleis (vualtris Furlans!) che nô Cjargnei s'in nin cun Ceco Bepe... cheste volte mi stareis a scoltâ! Gnò barbe Rino, ch'al studîe da agns e agnorums i problemas leâts a'e Cjargne... e al (Din)Cjaroi in particulâr, al è cunvint che, par rapresentâ ben il sun dal finâl Cjargnel in tas peraulis parsôre, si vares di scrivilis cun "æ" in finâl... E a sostegno de sô teorie al resone intòr des origjinis dai prins abitants di chês zonis... A Zui a erin a stâ i Romans, a Cividât ancje, come a 'Quilee... Però, resonant ben, di solit e son i puescj' plui 'bandonâz che, tal timp, a conservin le origjinalitât di un idioma... no ise vere? Ben, fin chi mi veis capît! 'nin indenant! Io no eri masse cunvint de sô teorie, però cuant ch'o ai viodût il cine "The Passion" di Mel Gibson, mi soi 'npensât di ce ch'al mi contave gnò barbe Rino... parcè ch'o ai sintût (e tal film a cjacaravin il latin "volgâr" dai soldataz Romans ch'a erin 'tor pal mont! ...ancje in Cjiargne!) cemût ch'a pronunciavin il finâl des paraulis similis a chês ch'o us ai citât parsore!!! Precîs, precîs al sun che i Cjargnei a doprin in finâl di Cjargnæ, barbæ, agnæ... Mi disarês: tu sês fûr di caprioldo! no 'n vino zà 'vonde di matucei ch'a vuelin gambiâ alc tal mût di scrivi... magari par vôe di jessi citâs di cualchi bande! Ben!: no ai vôe di jessi citât di nissune bande... però se le Filologjiche e acetàs cheste soluzion, 'us promèt che no mi 'n voi di chê altre bande, cun Ceco Bepe! Mi sint di proponi un sondagjo sul argoment... magari vie web, par savê ce ch'a pensin chei altris! Mandi e grassie!
- Par me su la pronunzie des variis a e â ê à è atôr pal Friûl a 'nd saressin di disi tantis di chês robis... Ti spieghi dut câs un dôs robis su la grafie standard che e je chê che si dopre al dì di vuê par scrivi il furlan. La grafie uficiâl e je un mût par scrivi in maniere compagne in dutis lis bandis dal Friûl ma no dâ une regole fisse pe pronunzie parcè che lis peraulis tu puedis leilis daûr de tô pronunzie. Tu âs di dismenteâ il talian (dulà che a son des regulis pe pronunzie corete e dulà che adiriture a fasin fâ ai atôrs des scuelis di dizion) e pensâ a altris lenghis tant che l'inglês o il francês dulà che lis peraulis si scrivin simpri compagnis ma si lein in mût difarent a secont dal puest, si che si lei in un mût a Oxford, in un mût difarent in Americhe, in un altri mût ancjemò in Australie o in Indie o in Sudafriche.
- Ven a stâi che intal furlan standard jo o scrivarai la cjase ma o leiarai, a secont dal furlan che o feveli, la cjase, la cjasa, le cjase, le ciase (e dongje di dulà che tu scrivis tu a son ancje chei che a disin cjaso come che a fasevin a Cividât cualchi secul fâ...). Dutis chestis pronunziis a son justis!
- Tal furlan standard no si scrîf cemût che si lei. Cheste e je di sigûr une robe strane par un che al è abituât al talian ma ancje par talian a son dut câs des peraulis che no si lein cemût che si scrivin (par esempli aglio e glicine, o dutis lis peraulis cun cu qu cqu che si pronunziin compagn par esempli acqua, cuore, quota)
- Insom daûr de grafie standard tu tu scrivarâs simpri agne e barbe ma tu tu podarâs pronunziâ barbæ e agnæ...
- Un robe par finî, viôt che Ceco Bepe plui che al cjargnel al jere abituât al furlan di Insic dongje Cormons e magari cussì no al varês dite "i crodi che nol coventedi fâ un sondagjo" (che dut câs inte grafie standard si scrîf "o crôt che nol coventedi fa un sondaç"). :-) Mandi e grazie dal biel intervent, viva la Cjargne! --Tocaibon 3 di Otu 2007 a lis 09:07 (UTC)
scrivi par furlan
cambieCumò, o mior cun vuè, o scrivarai su chestes pagines indulà che si scrif in furlan. Vores scrivi plui spes; lei les tantes riflessions e i diviers scrits. Ma o domndi un plasè a cui che mi lei: ce mut podio fa par scrivi cui acents, i segnos che si vares di meti coretamenti sui verbs e tes peraules che iu domandin? Nello Malisano
- Bon, alore o spietin di viodi chel che tu scrivarâs! Di robis di scrivi a 'nd saressin verementri tantis e se un al à voie di dâ une man...
- Dut câs se tu âs problemis a scrivi i acents prove a viodi intes domandis e rispuestis se tu cjatis lis informazions che ti coventin. Dopo tu puedis ancje viodi la vuide in curt e la pagjine di benvignût. Se ti covente une man pe grafie e pe gramatiche viôt la vôs Gramatiche de lenghe furlane che e je fate une vore ben.
- Se dut chest nol baste no stâ vê fastidi a domandânus. E no stâ ve pôre a scrivi ancje cence ducj i acents juscj che si stâ un moment a comedâ. Mandi --Tocaibon 3 di Otu 2007 a lis 08:14 (UTC)
Mandi
cambieMandi!! dut ben? io non parlo il friulano (a parte due o tre parole) ma lo vorrei imparare...potete aiutarmi? Purtroppo vivo in una regione che non apprezzo per niente...la lombardia...se abitassi da voi molto probabilmente ci sarebbero pure dei corsi di friulano!!!! In ogni caso mi sento Friulana dentro ed è questo che conta!!! Mandi fantas! Une Busade
- Benvenuta! Per imparare il friulano trovi qualcosa anche in rete anche se purtroppo i corsi sono forse più pensati per insegnare a scrivere con la grafia standard che per insegnare il friulano a chi non lo conosce. Ad ogni modo visto che ti piacerebbe imparare il friulano e sei volenterosa o continui par furlan :-)
- Pai cors prove a viodi:
- Par scoltâ musiche furlane prove a viodi:
- Se il furlan propit no tu lu sâs e tu âs voie di sintîlu fevelâ prove cu lis radios
- Se tu âs voie di lei alc su internet tu cjatis dai gjornâi
- e dai libris
- Jo ti consei ancje di vioditi cualchi blog furlan. Di biei a 'nd è un biel pôcs, a chi ti met dome cualchidun:
- e par finî tu puedis lei alc ancje su la Vichipedie.... Mandi --Tocaibon 14 di Otu 2007 a lis 21:14 (UTC)
Mandi
cambieO soi di Faedis, mi fas plasè vè ciatat chiste pagine in furlan. mandi a ducj.
Furlansimpri.
Evoluzion demografiche dai comuns furlans
cambieMandi! O a cirût di meti, sot la vôs Sauris, il grafic de evoluzion demografiche come ch'al è te vichipedie taliane, cjamànt sù la figure, ma no jè la stesse robe...ce mût si fasial a fâ come inte version taliane? Graziis e mandi Alpin furlan ai 17 di Otu 2007
- Le ai comedade. Metint la figure tu vevis scrit
- [[Figure:Saurispopolazion.png|450px]]
- jo o ai gjavât 450px che al cambiave un fregul la grandece de figure. --Tocaibon 19 di Otu 2007 a lis 10:51 (UTC)
Ben fate Tocaibon. Chest grafic al è une vore interessant par un ch'al và a cirî informazions su un comun. Cussì o podarin, cun la calme, metilu par dutis lis vôs dai comuns furlans. Mandi Alpin furlan 22 di Otu a lis 18.12
- Beh, par dî la veretât cheste no je la vie miôr, parcè che si scugne cjariâ sù a man lis figuris e al è un lavoron stâi daûr... i vevi domandât za in Mai mi pâr a un di it.wiki che al à za metût i comuns se rivave a meti ancje la demografie, mi veve dit che lu varès fat, varai di tornâ a pocâlu parcè che lu fasedi. --Klenje 22 di Otu 2007 a lis 17:55 (UTC)
Bot policy
cambieHello. To facilitate steward granting of bot access, I suggest implementing the standard bot policy on this wiki. This will involve creating a redirect to this page from Project:Bot policy, and adding a line at the top noting that it is used here. In particular, this policy allows automatic acceptance of known interlanguage linking bots (if this page says that is acceptable), which form the vast majority of such requests.
Please read the text at m:Bot policy before commenting. If you object, please say so; it will be implemented in one week if there is no objection, since it is particularly written to streamline bot requests on wikis with little or no community interested in bot access requests. AlleborgoBot 30 di Nov 2007 a lis 10:28 (UTC)
- Bot policy implemented. --AlleborgoBot 8 di Dic 2007 a lis 13:27 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to ask for a bot flag for Purbo_T (contributions)
- Operator: User:Purodha = ksh:User:Purodha (b'crat @ ksh)
- Function: interwiki link maintenance
- Operation: manually-assisted, occasionally in automatic or autonomous mode, starting mostly from the Wikipedia of Ripuarian languages
- Software: pywikipediabot framework updated daily from svn to latest version
- Already has bot flag on: aa, ab, ak, als, am, an, ang, ar, arc, as, ast, av, ay, ba, bar, bat-smg, bcl, be, be-x-old, bh, bi, bm, bn, bo, bpy, bs, bug, bxr, ca, cbk-zam, cdo, ce, ceb, ch, chr, chy, co, cr, crh, cs, csb, cu, cv, cy, da, de, diq, dsb, dv, dz, ee, el, eml, eo, es, et, eu, fa, ff, fi, fiu-vro, fj, fo, fr, ga, gd, glk, gn, got, gv, ha, hak, haw, he, hi, hr, hsb, ht, hu, hy, ia, id, ie, ig, ik, ilo, io, is, iu, ja, jbo, jv, ka, kab, kg, ki, kk, kl, km, kn, ko, ks, ksh, ku, kv, kw, ky, la, lad, lb, lbe, lg, li, lij, lmo, ln, lo, lt, lv, map-bms, mg, mh, mk, ml, mn, mr, ms, my, mzn, na, nah, nap, nds, nds-nl, ne, new, ng, nl, nn, no, nov, nrm, nv, ny, oc, om, or, os, pa, pag, pam, pap, pdc, pi, pih, pl, pms, ps, qu, rm, rmy, rn, ro, roa-rup, roa-tara, ru, rw, sa, sc, scn, sco, sd, sg, sh, si, simple, sk, sl, sm, sn, so, sq, sr, ss, st, stq, su, sv, sw, ta, te, tet, tg, th, ti, tk, tl, tn, to, tpi, tr, ts, tum, tw, ty, udm, ug, uk, ur, uz, ve, vec, vi, vls, vo, war, wo, wuu, xal, xh, yi, yo, za, zea, zh-classical, zh-yue, zu, more pending
- There is some cumulated data on the bot available from the toolserver
Thank you! --Purodha Blissenbach 3 di Mar 2008 a lis 04:30 (UTC)
Salviamo MANDI
cambieStanno cancellando "Mandi" su Wikipedia [8]; chi può la salvi votando contro. Respectwiki 81.208.66.20 14 di Avr 2008 a lis 17:22 (UTC)
Election Notice, Please Translate
cambieThe 2008 Board election committee announces the 2008 election process. Wikimedians will have the opportunity to elect one candidate from the Wikimedia community to serve as a representative on the Board of Trustees. The successful candidate will serve a one-year term, ending in July 2009.
Candidates may nominate themselves for election between May 8 and May 22, and the voting will occur between 1 June and 21 June. For more information on the voting and candidate requirements, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008>.
The voting system to be used in this election has not yet been confirmed, however voting will be by secret ballot, and confidentiality will be strictly maintained.
Votes will again be cast and counted on a server owned by an independent, neutral third party, Software in the Public Interest (SPI). SPI will hold cryptographic keys and be responsible for tallying the votes and providing final vote counts to the Election Committee. SPI provided excellent help during the 2007 elections.
Further information can be found at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en>. Questions may be directed to the Election Committee at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2008/en>. If you are interested in translating official election pages into your own language, please see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Translation>.
For the election committee,
Philippe Beaudette
Meetup about and around less resourced languages
cambieHi, some of you might already know that we are going to have a meeting about and around less resourced languages on 31st of May 2008, which among others involves the Wikimedia projects, in particular Wikipedia. For most less resourced languages Wikipedia is the first collaborative project. We will talk also about tools, like Apertium which can help a lot, and about Betawiki for the localization of the User Interface of not only Wikipedias, but all Mediawiki projects in general. Furthermore you will be able to know about activities like the Open Nursery project which collects and creates contents, concentrating on less resourced languages, how elders work together with young people to keep their language alive, about kids in Africa who may not use their mother tongue at school. You will have the possibility to watch videos about topics which reach from how the UN and UNESCO see the actual language pictures to projects like a grammar checking engine, a successful localization project and some more topics.
Of course, all of you are invited to meet up with us in Cherasco (yes, there is a Wiki-Camp available) and those who cannot come are invited to follow us on web-tv (we are not sure now if we will be live or if the presentations will be online as soon as possible after they are on, but in any case you will be able to watch or the videos with relevant information or see us live.
- Click here for the programme of the 31st of May
- Click here for information about lodging and travel
- Click here for the programme from 21st May to 1st June
- Click here to watch the WEB-TV (right now there are just two videos, one slide show and the information for the wiki camp online – we are still working on the actual programming for the conference)
Well there is one more thing to tell you/to ask: of course it is very relevant for us as a foundation to know about the actual needs in your language community, why you find the projects you contribute to useful, what are your personal goals. You can post your comments under the programme of 31st May or send an e-mail with your notes to info [at] voxhumanitatis.org. Please note that Vox Humanitatis is non-politica. More info about us can be found at our website where you also find the projects we support, a link to our scope and a link to our members.
Should you have any questions or need further information, please feel free to contact us.
Thank you for your attention and we hope to meet you soon!
Cheers :-) --SabineCretella 29 di Avr 2008 a lis 09:38 (UTC)
I hereby request botflag on this wiki for my bot StigBot.
- Owner’s account: Stigmj (talk)
- Bot account: StigBot (contribs • sul • makebot@meta )
- Function: mainly interwiki, but can be used in user-namespace for adding userpages etc. on request from the affected users.
- Software: Pywikipedia, updated from SVN before each run.
- Other: Runs manually initiated automatic supervised and sometimes entirely manual. Already has bot flag on: ar, bpy, en, eo, fr, no, oc, pt, ro and vo.
Best regards, Stigmj 8 di Jug 2008 a lis 12:34 (UTC)
Global bots
cambieHello. The standard bot policy was updated to allow global bots, which are now technically possible. These are trusted bots that will be given bot access on all wikis that allow global bots (the local policy or request page must explicitly allow them, or they won't get access on this wiki). The current requirements for global bots are:
- the bot must only maintain interlanguage links or fix double-redirects;
- the bot must already be active on several wikis, with long-term contributions to back up its trustworthiness.
Does anyone object to allowing global bots on this wiki? I'll update the local policy in a week if there are no objections. Thanks. —Pathoschild 23:59:55, 26 Lui 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, I've got no objection, I'm very happy that a small community like ours could avoid to deal with bots. Thanks--Klenje 27 di Lui 2008 a lis 16:31 (UTC)
- Done. —Pathoschild 23:56:21, 03 Avost 2008 (UTC)
3 brac 1 franc
cambieMandi a duc. Cui mi sà spiegà el significât dal m di dì: "3 brac 1 franc" ?
Un salùt di Pauli
Di sigur che si doprave ancje par talian:
"tre braccia una lira" o ancje: "cinque braccia una lira"
e si riferisce al prezzo della stoffa a buon mercato (mussolina, panno),
ma anche al modo approssimativo di misurarla (proprio perche' si tratta di
merce ecomomica).
Quindi direi "scadente", "di poco valore" ma anche "approssimativo", "grossolano", "alla buona", e non necessariamente con una connotazione negativa.
Modi di dire simili: "a braccio" "a buon mercato" "un tanto al chilo".
NB: un braccio (italiano) = mezzo metro circa.
Mandi!
Manual for new and small Wikipedias
cambieHello, at Meta there are pages created to help new and small Wikipedias: Manual and Wikipedia and help pages. You are welcome to have a look and comment. Kind regards--Ziko 13 di Avo 2008 a lis 22:36 (UTC)
Tell us about your Wikipedia
cambiePlease Tell us about your Wikipedia language edition, answering some questions, and learn about others.--Ziko 28 di Avo 2008 a lis 17:34 (UTC)
Meni Uciel
cambieBuine sere! O ai une gran voe di cjata une poesie del poeta furlan Meni Uciel. La maestre la veve lete a scuele, il titul nol ricuardi ma e jere une rube su la primevere, che un an e jere passade vie cence viodile (come cumo ma in chei agns la, 1970-73, al ere ancjmo un fenomeno!) mi ricuardi dome il comenčament "Tu ses restade su la puarte, come une femene foreste" e finive disint: "...al vignara' l'estat". Po dopo ai vut ancje il plase' di cognosilu, jo eri ancjmo un frut di dis agns. Mandi! PieriNeri! --76.38.22.37 20 di Otu 2008 a lis 20:04 (UTC)
matematiche
cambieMandi! O soi rivât chi dopo un pôc di zîrs su chei atris progjets wikimedia e o volarès dâ une man. O soi un pôc rusin di marilenghe scrite in grafie normalisade e o volevi savê se par intant o pues scomençâ a buta jù qualchi pagjinute di Matematiche cemut che ven. Magari daspò qualchi d'un al corezarà i erôrs. Grasie
Srks 27 di Otu 2008 a lis 22:19 (UTC)
- Benvignût! No sta vê nissune pôre a scrivi che a comedâ la grafie si sta un moment... --Tocaibon 28 di Otu 2008 a lis 13:55 (UTC)
The most often used MediaWiki messages
cambieHoi, the most often used MediaWiki messages (less than 25% of all MediaWiki messages) are the most visible messages. They help our readers and editors the most. We are aiming to get these messages localised for as many languages as possible by the end of the year. Please help us and yourself and localise these messages. Thanks, GerardM 17 di Nov 2008 a lis 13:10 (UTC)
Detti Friulani
cambieI soi une vore giovin e i no sai scrivi tant ben (nancje tabaja!) furlan, ma i vares gust di ve pui robes dai vechios... par esempli i mi ricuardi che quando giocavo a briscola con mia nonna... mi diceva.. coppe (cope) copari ca luus la lune.. denel, rote la cite spandude la meel.. bastons, puarte il cjampaniil in procession.. o modi di dire... a no le farine di fa ostie... Non me ne intendo di organizzazione in wikipedia, ma spero di aver dato uno stimolo ai volenterosi/talentuosi redattori..! Mandi a ducju
mandi ducj
cambiemandi. o soi gnûf di vichipedie e o no ai ben idee di cemut che e funzie... dutcas, cussì par cognossisi, o ai non enrico e o soi di mosse; o spiri di jessi in cualchi mut di jutori par le vichipedie furlane. mandi e FUARCE FRIÛL!
Mandi, O vevi chê di segnalâ il sito dai scritôrs furlans di [Contecurte http://contecurte.splinder.com/ e ancje il logo di Wichipedie da podê zontâ tal vuestri blog o tal vuestri sito ch'o cjatarês --Blisco 8 di Mar 2009 a lis 05:52 (UTC)Media:http://furlanar.blogspot.com
cerotto
cambiecerotto in furlan
- Cerotto par furlan si scrîf cerot. Se tu âs di cirî cualchi peraule viôt su chest dizionari ortografic. --Tocaibon 23 di Avr 2009 a lis 19:16 (UTC)
WWF
cambieIl WWF al è un'associazion che jude i animai soredut chei in vie di estinzion. Il so simbul al è un panda parcjè al è l'animâl cun mancul esemplârs tal mont. Chiste associazion e ha oasi par dut. Une oasi al è un toc di tiare nome pai animai dulà che i čhačadôrs no puedin là. Inoltre il WWF al à dei centri dulà che e vegnin assistîs i animai malâs o ferîts. Chesti centri si clamin CRAS, cal sta par: Centro Recupero Animali Selvatici. Docj chei che vuelin savê di plui sul WWF e puedin là tal sît: www.wwf.it
Hi, I'd like to ask for a bot flag for TobeBot (contributions)
- Operator: User:Mymelo = ja:User:Mymelo
- Function: interwiki links
- Operation: automatc autonomous mode
- Software: Python pywikipediabot from svn to latest version
- Already has bot flag on: ar, bpy, bs, ca, cs, cy, da, de, en, es, eu, fa, fr, ga, hu, id, it, ja, ml, mn, nap, nl, pdc, pt, ro, roa-tara, ru, scn, sco, simple, sr, sv, th, tr, uk, vi, vo, zh, zh-classical, zh-yue
I will start to make test edis. Best regrads. --Mymelo 17 di Avo 2009 a lis 18:45 (UTC)
Par fâ gnûfs modei
cambieO vuei voltâ de Wikipedie ceche cualchi vôs e alì a doprin un grum di modei (cui dâts biografics des personis o ben cui dâts statistics des citâts e v.i.). Cemût si fasial par proponi gnûfs modei? Dulà aio di scriviju? Par vê une idee, mi coventarès il model doprât pe tabele sot de fotografie inta chê vôs chi: http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kladsko_%28m%C4%9Bsto%29 Mandi, Giorgio Cadorini 28 di Avo 2009 a lis 20:08 (UTC)
- La robe plui semplice e je probabilmentri chê di copiâ il model cec e voltâlu par furlan, di solit pai modei o vin fat cussì. Il probleme al è che cualchi volte i modei des Wikipediis plui grandis a son masse complicâts e magari dentri di lôr a doprin altris modei.
- Dut câs se tu âs voie di provâ a fâlu e ti covente une man par metilu a puest ti doi une man jo. --Tocaibon 30 di Avo 2009 a lis 20:01 (UTC)
Passât sempliç
cambieVino di doprâ il passât sempliç (chel che intal talian al è il passato remoto) tal scrivi lis vôs? Di une bande o vin di scrivi intune maniere facile, di chê altre al è ben doprâ ducj i imprescj de lenghe che a judin a sclarî ben lis robis (e i tmps verbâi a judin, se ju doprìn ben). Ce pensaiso?Giorgio Cadorini 30 di Avo 2009 a lis 20:34 (UTC)
The LocalisationUpdate extension has gone live
cambieThe LocalisationUpdate extension is now enabled for all Wikimedia projects. From now on new localisations that become available in SVN will become available to your project within 24 hours. Your localisations get into SVN from translatewiki.net typically within a day and at worst in two days. This is a huge improvement from the old practice where the localisations became available with new software. This could take weeks, even months.
The localisations done by our community at translatewiki.net are committed to SVN typically every day. When the system messages in English are the same as the local messages, they will now be inserted in a file and are available for use in all our projects in a timely manner
What this means for you
cambieLocal messages have an impact on the performance of our system. It is best when messages are as much as possible part of the system messages. In order to remove unnecessary duplication, all the messages that have a local localisation and are exactly the same as the system message will be removed. What we ask you to do is to compare and proof read the messages in translatewiki.net and the local messages. You can then either remove local messages when the translatewiki.net message is to be preferred or, you can update the message at translatewiki.net.
Messages that are specific to your project will have to stay as they are. You do want to check if the format and the variables of the message are still the same.
Why localise at translatewiki.net
cambieWhen you localise at translatewiki.net, your messages will be used in all Wikimedia projects and eventually in all MediaWiki based projects. This is how we provide the standard support for your language. When messages change, at translatewiki.net you will be prompted to revisit your translations. Localising is more efficient because we have innovated the process to make you more efficient; there is text explaining about messages and we have applied AJAX technology to reduce the number of clicks you have to make.
Translatewiki.net update
cambie- Currently 43.85% of the MediaWiki messages and 3.73% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 28 di Set 2009 a lis 21:24 (UTC)
- Currently 44.02% of the MediaWiki messages and 3.56% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 1 di Nov 2009 a lis 11:06 (UTC)
- Currently 45.24% of the MediaWiki messages and 3.76% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 7 di Dic 2009 a lis 12:56 (UTC)
- Currently 45.12% of the MediaWiki messages and 3.71%% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 4 di Zen 2010 a lis 15:26 (UTC)
How can we improve the usability for your language
cambieWe expect that with the implementation of LocalisationUpdate the usability of MediaWiki for your language will improve. We are now ready to look at other aspects of usability for your language as well. There are two questions we would like you to answer: Are there issues with the new functionality of the Usability Initiative Does MediaWiki support your language properly
The best way to answer the first question is to visit the translatewiki.net. Change the language to your language, select the “vector” skin and add the advanced tool bar in in the preferences and check out the new functionality. And make some changes in your user page. When there is a need to improve on the localisation, please make the necessary changess . It should update your localisation straight away. We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability_issues.
When there are problems with the support of MediaWiki for your language, we really want to know about this. It is best to report each issue separately. In this way there will be no large mass of issues to resolve but we can address each issue on its own. Consider issues with the display of characters, the presentation of your script, the position of the side bar, the combination of text with other languages, scripts. It is best to try this in an environment like the prototype wiki as it provides you with a clean, basic and up to date environment. The prototype wiki is available for five languages but you can select any of them, change the preferences to your language and test out MediaWiki for your language.
We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language issues. The issues you raise will all be assessed. It is important to keep each issue separate, because this will make it easier to understand the issues and find solutions.
PS This text has been approved by Naoko, Brion and Siebrand. Thanks, GerardM 28 di Set 2009 a lis 21:24 (UTC)
Small request
cambieHello! I am a Polish wikipedian and I would like to ask you for your help - writing a new article about former Polish President who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983 – Lech Wałęsa. I have looked for his biography in your Wikipedia but without success. Polish Wikipedians will be grateful for your help. Thank you so much in advance! PS you can find the English version of the article here. Best wishes from Poland, Patrol110 28 di Otu 2009 a lis 22:18 (UTC)
Furlan par tv
cambieIl talian lè stat drecjat dalla tv ( cumò lu stan massacrand ). E' ore di salva ancje il Furlan, quindi fuarce furlans ! In region lis risorses par Udin son simpri di mancul si concentre simpri di plui dut a Triest. Dainus une mane par une sede Rai a Udin plui grande e che cuviargi mjor dute la Region !
Mjor a sarès une RTF (radio e television furlane) via cavo o internet.
Wikimania Scholarships
cambieThe call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. To apply, visit the Wikimania 2010 scholarships information page, click the secure link available there, and fill out the form to apply. For additional information, please visit the Scholarships information and FAQ pages:
Yours very truly,
Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
2010 Fundraising Is Almost Here
cambie Hello Wikipedians, I am Theo and I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation during the 2010 Fundraiser. My job is to be the liaison between your community and the Foundation. This year's fundraiser is intended to be a collaborative and global effort; we recognize that banner messages which may perform well in the United States don't necessarily translate well, or appeal to international audiences.
I'm contacting you as I am currently looking for translators who are willing to contribute to this project by helping translate and localize messages into different languages and suggesting messages that would appeal to your readers on the Fundraising Meta Page. We've started the setup on meta for both banner submission, statistical analysis, and grouping volunteers together.
Use the talk pages on meta, talk to your local communities, talk to others, talk to us, and add your feedback to the proposed messages as well! I look forward to working with you during this year's fundraiser. If someone could translate this message I would really appreciate it so that everyone is able to understand our goals and contribute to this year's campaign.
Theo (WMF) 20 di Otu 2010 a lis 20:05 (UTC)
spartît cjant de filologjiche
cambiemandi a ducj, prime di dut us domandi scuse parcè che o sai che la vichipedie no je il lûc plui indicât par fâ domandis e discussions come chista, che no centrin par nuja cun dut il rest, ma mi covente il vuestri jutori par cjatâ fûr une robe che stoi deventant mât a dai e dai di cirî! savêso dîmi dulà podio cjatâ il spartît dal cjant de filologjiche? podêso indicâmi un sît internet, o magari se cualchidun lu à zà tal computer podial mandâmilu par email? graciis e ancjemò scuse! mandi
Mandi, jo o ai lu spartît dal cjant de Filologjiche che tu ciris....se o cumbini t'al mandi vie facebook o e - mail, sennò o pues ancje mandatilu par pueste normâl...se ti covente o ai ancje cualchi altri spartît di vilotis. Mandi e bon an Pietro Bortolotti
Multilingual Challenge
cambiePlease help: replace this red text with a translation of the English message below. Thank you! |
Announcing the Derby Multilingual Challenge This is the first multilingual Wikipedia collaboration. All Wikipedians can take part, in any Wikipedia language. The challenge runs from 1 May until 3 September 2011. |
Andrew Dalby 2 di Mai 2011 a lis 12:17 (UTC)
Film con panels Furlans
cambieBondí, i l'hai fait un petit film con panels de streda en Furlan, clapés dès Wikimedia Commons (alguns con licença CC BY-SA, alguns en dominy public):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXQOXCGdrRk
Peul-estre al podess estre utilisé en vergun article soura quest subject.
Salutations cordiales, --79.31.152.85 4 di Jug 2011 a lis 08:00 (UTC)
Call for image filter referendum
cambieThe Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.
Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.
Sorry for delivering you a message in English. Please help translate the pages on the referendum on Meta and join the translators mailing list.
For the coordinating committee,
Philippe (WMF)
Cbrown1023
Risker
Mardetanha
PeterSymonds
Robert Harris
- Operator : Hedwig in Washington
- Automatic or Manually Assisted : automatic
- Programming Language(s) : Python (pywikipedia), daily update
- Function Summary : Interwiki, Internationalization by removing chaos in Babel so it can be used properly and easy. Double redirects will be added shortly
- Already has a bot flag (Y/N) : Yes, DE, EN, AR, NN, BAT-SMG, ARZ and LB, others pending see here
- Function Details : just using the standard interwiki.py; parameters: -auto -all - log -catr
--Hedwig in Washington 2 di Set 2011 a lis 05:14 (UTC)
Terms of Use update
cambieI apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation is discussing changes to its Terms of Use. The discussion can be found at Talk:Terms of use. Everyone is invited to join in. Because the new version of Terms of use is not in final form, we are not able to present official translations of it. Volunteers are welcome to translate it, as German volunteers have done at m:Terms of use/de, but we ask that you note at the top that the translation is unofficial and may become outdated as the English version is changed. The translation request can be found at m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2 -- Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison 27 di Otu 2011 a lis 00:47 (UTC)
Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants
cambieI apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.
- Do you want to help attract new contributors to Wikimedia projects?
- Do you want to improve retention of our existing editors?
- Do you want to strengthen our community by diversifying its base and increasing the overall number of excellent participants around the world?
The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking Community Fellows and project ideas for the Community Fellowship Program. A Fellowship is a temporary position at the Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of projects. Submissions for 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia projects. If interested, please submit a project idea or apply to be a fellow by January 15, 2012. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships for more information.
Thanks!
--Siko Bouterse, Head of Community Fellowships, Wikimedia Foundation 21 di Dic 2011 a lis 13:00 (UTC)
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Proposta
cambieCiao a tutti, mi rivolgo alla vostra comunità per proporvi di entrare a far parte di un nuovo progetto: Il progetto si chiama “Wikitaly” e si prefigge di coordinare tutti i progetti esistenti della Wikimedia Foundation nelle lingue regionali parlate sul territorio italiano. Il progetto ha come obiettivo, quindi, quello di unificare tutte le comunità dei progetti interessati, per favorire una maggiore cooperazione tra di esse e un più rapido sviluppo dei vari progetti tramite una pianificazione oculata degli obiettivi da raggiungere volta per volta. Il progetto non punta ad amministrare ogni singola wiki, bensì a coordinare i progetti interessati, con lo scopo di aiutare ogni progetto a fare un salto di qualità superando i maggiori problemi, tutto nell’interesse di ogni singola comunità. Nessuno verrà a stabilire delle regole nella vostra comunità, poiché l’amministrazione di essa spetta solo a voi stessi. Gli utenti di tutte le comunità partecipanti al progetto potranno concordare ad esempio una lista di determinati obiettivi da raggiungere nella propria wiki in piena autonomia, e il progetto cercherà con ogni mezzo possibile di aiutarli nel raggiungere gli obiettivi fissati, concordando ogni azione con le comunità interessate ovviamente. Praticamente Wikitaly controllerebbe il coordinamento e l’organizzazione dell’insieme dei progetti interessati, i quali però continueranno a gestirsi da soli in piena autonomia. L'adesione al progetto non comporta da parte vostra nessun impegno da prendere in particolare, continuerete a svolgere il lavoro che avete sempre fatto, solo che la vostra wiki avrebbe un aiuto in più dal progetto per andare avanti. Vorrei sapere da voi se la vostra comunità è interessata o meno a fare parte del progetto. Tanti saluti a tutti! --Reder 24 di Dic 2011 a lis 00:51 (UTC)
- Ho spostato la discussione su Meta in modo da avere un parere generale dagli utenti di tutte le comunità interessate. Chi volesse continuare la discussione vada su questa pagina ed esprima il proprio parere, i propri dubbi o le proprie idee nell'apposita pagina di discussione. --Reder 3 di Zen 2012 a lis 19:17 (UTC)
Bot
cambieRipeto qui quello che scrissi a m:Talk:Cooperation of Wikimedia's Italian regional projects, dato che la destinazione dei flag di bot spettano alle singole wiki. vi servono bot? avete bot che benvenutano? Potrei darvi una mano.--Nickanc 7 di Zen 2012 a lis 21:13 (UTC)
Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta
cambieWikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.
The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:
- Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
- New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
- The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
- Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
- Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
- Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
- The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
- More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
- Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
- Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
- Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.
Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.
Note that this cluster does have SUL but it is not integrated with SUL in production, so you'll need to create another account. You should avoid using the same password as you use here. — Global message delivery 15 di Zen 2012 a lis 00:09 (UTC)
MediaWiki 1.19
cambie(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.
Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 12 di Fev 2012 a lis 15:00 (UTC)
Update on IPv6
cambie(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it, as well as the full version of this announcement on Meta)
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to do limited testing of IPv6 on June 2-3. If there are not too many problems, we may fully enable IPv6 on World IPv6 day (June 6), and keep it enabled.
What this means for your project:
- At least on June 2-3, 2012, you may see a small number of edits from IPv6 addresses, which are in the form "
2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334
". See e.g. w:en:IPv6 address. These addresses should behave like any other IP address: You can leave messages on their talk pages; you can track their contributions; you can block them. (See the full version of this announcement for notes on range blocks.)
- In the mid term, some user scripts and tools will need to be adapted for IPv6.
- We suspect that IPv6 usage is going to be very low initially, meaning that abuse should be manageable, and we will assist in the monitoring of the situation.
Read the full version of this announcement on how to test the behavior of IPv6 with various tools and how to leave bug reports, and to find a fuller analysis of the implications of the IPv6 migration.
--Erik Möller, VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation 2 di Jug 2012 a lis 00:58 (UTC)
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2011 Picture of the Year competition
cambieмакедонски • norsk • polski
Dear Wikimedians,
Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2011 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We are interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year 2011. Any user registered at Commons or a Wikimedia wiki SUL-related to Commons with more than 75 edits before 1 April 2012 (UTC) is welcome to vote and, of course everyone is welcome to view!
Detailed information about the contest can be found at the introductory page.
About 600 of the best of Wikimedia Common's photos, animations, movies and graphics were chosen –by the international Wikimedia Commons community– out of 12 million files during 2011 and are now called Featured Pictures.
From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons Features Pictures of all flavors.
For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.
We regret that you receive this message in English; we intended to use banners to notify you in your native language but there was both, human and technical resistance.
See you on Commons! --Picture of the Year 2011 Committee 5 di Jug 2012 a lis 18:17 (UTC)
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Help decide about more than $10 million of Wikimedia donations in the coming year
cambie(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it)
Hi,
As many of you are aware, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees recently initiated important changes in the way that money is being distributed within the Wikimedia movement. As part of this, a new community-led "Funds Dissemination Committee" (FDC) is currently being set up. Already in 2012-13, its recommendations will guide the decisions about the distribution of over 10 million US dollars among the Foundation, chapters and other eligible entities.
Now, seven capable, knowledgeable and trustworthy community members are sought to volunteer on the initial Funds Dissemination Committee. It is expected to take up its work in September. In addition, a community member is sought to be the Ombudsperson for the FDC process. If you are interested in joining the committee, read the call for volunteers. Nominations are planned to close on August 15.
--Anasuya Sengupta, Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking, Wikimedia Foundation 19 di Lui 2012 a lis 20:04 (UTC)
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Wikiversità
cambieWikiversità vuole aprire una materia Lingua friulana Per ora è vuota. Volete dare una mano?--Mizardellorsa (discussioni) 2 di Avo 2012 a lis 11:11 (UTC)
More opportunities for you to access free research databases
cambieThe quest to get editors free access to the sources they need is gaining momentum.
- Credo Reference provides full-text online versions of nearly 1200 published reference works from more than 70 publishers in every major subject, including general and subject dictionaries and encyclopedias. There are 125 full Credo 350 accounts available, with access even to 100 more references works than in Credo's original donation. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
- HighBeam Research has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications including newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias. Thousands of new articles are added daily, and archives date back over 25 years covering a wide range of subjects and industries. There are 250 full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
- Questia is an online research library for books and journal articles focusing on the humanities and social sciences. Questia has curated titles from over 300 trusted publishers including 77,000 full-text books and 4 million journal, magazine, and newspaper articles, as well as encyclopedia entries. There will soon be 1000 full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
You might also be interested in the idea to create a central Wikipedia Library where approved editors would have access to all participating resource donors. Add your feedback to the Community Fellowship proposal. Apologies for the English message (translate here). Go sign up :) --Ocaasi (talk) 16 di Avo 2012 a lis 02:14 (UTC)
Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program
cambieI apologize for addressing you in English. I would be grateful if you could translate this message into your language.
The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.
If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)
Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)6 di Set 2012 a lis 01:55 (UTC)
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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out
cambie(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.)
As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.
The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:
- language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
- infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
- lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)
It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.
For further discussions please use this talk page (if you are uncomfortable writing in English you can also write in your native language there) or point me to the place where your discussion is happening so I can answer there.
--Lydia Pintscher 10 di Set 2012 a lis 13:18 (UTC)
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Upcoming software changes - please report any problems
cambie(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it)
All Wikimedia wikis - including this one - will soon be upgraded with new and possibly disruptive code. This process starts today and finishes on October 24 (see the upgrade schedule & code details).
Please watch for problems with:
- revision diffs
- templates
- CSS and JavaScript pages (like user scripts)
- bots
- PDF export
- images, video, and sound, especially scaling sizes
- the CologneBlue skin
If you notice any problems, please report problems at our defect tracker site. You can test for possible problems at test2.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which have already been updated.
Thanks! With your help we can find problems fast and get them fixed faster.
Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 16 di Otu 2012 a lis 02:53 (UTC)
P.S.: For the regular, smaller MediaWiki updates every two weeks, please watch this schedule.
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Fundraising localization: volunteers from outside the USA needed
cambiePlease translate for your local community
Hello All,
The Wikimedia Foundation's Fundraising team have begun our 'User Experience' project, with the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries outside the USA and enhancing the localization of our donation pages. I am searching for volunteers to spend 30 minutes on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.
The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real-time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)
By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. Please sing up and help us with our 'User Experience' project! :) If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!
Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation
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Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer!
cambieThank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.
I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.
The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**
By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!
Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation
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Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Read-only mode expected.
cambie(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) Next week, the Wikimedia Foundation will transition its main technical operations to a new data center in Ashburn, Virginia, USA. This is intended to improve the technical performance and reliability of all Wikimedia sites, including this wiki. There will be some times when the site will be in read-only mode, and there may be full outages; the current target windows for the migration are January 22nd, 23rd and 24th, 2013, from 17:00 to 01:00 UTC (see other timezones on timeanddate.com). More information is available in the full announcement.
If you would like to stay informed of future technical upgrades, consider becoming a Tech ambassador and joining the ambassadors mailing list. You will be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.
Thank you for your help and your understanding.
Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 19 di Zen 2013 a lis 15:16 (UTC)
1,000,000 articles on it:wiki!
cambiePlease translate in your language
Buongiorno a tutti! Oggi l'edizione in lingua italiana di Wikipedia ha raggiunto il milione di voci, siete tutti invitati a festeggiare con noi e a lasciare un messaggio qui, ciao!
Good morning to all! Italian Wikipedia reaches one million articles today, come party with us, and leave here a message to support our community! Have a nice day!
Wikipédia en italien atteint le million d'articles! Appel à tous les bénévoles et les internautes, Wikipédiens ou pas: la version italienne de Wikipédia atteint le million d'articles ce matin, on fait la fête! Vous pouvez nous rejondre au bistro italien pour nous laisser un message. Bonne journée à tout le monde!--94.38.225.85 2013年1月22日 (火) 08:00 (UTC)
Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab
cambieI apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.
- Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
- Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
- Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?
Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.
The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.
Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 30 di Zen 2013 a lis 20:24 (UTC)
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Wikidata phase 1 (language links) coming to this Wikipedia
cambieSorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally.
Wikidata has been in development for a few months now. It is now time for the roll-out of the first part of it on your Wikipedia. Phase 1 is the support for the management of language links. It is already being used on the Hungarian, Hebrew, Italian and English Wikipedias. The next step is to enable the extension on all other Wikipedias. We have currently planned this for March 6.
What is Wikidata?
cambieWikidata is a central place to store data that you can usually find in infoboxes. Think of it as something like Wikimedia Commons but for data (like the number of inhabitants of a country or the length of a river) instead of multimedia. The first part of this project (centralizing language links) is being rolled out now. The more fancy things will follow later.
What is going to happen?
cambieLanguage links in the sidebar are going to come from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.
Where can I find more information and ask questions?
cambieEditors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata
cambieTo stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages. You can see previous editions here.
--Lydia Pintscher 21 di Fev 2013 a lis 16:05 (UTC)
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Wikidata phase 1 (language links) live on this Wikipedia
cambieSorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.
As I annonced 2 weeks ago, Wikidata phase 1 (language links) has been deployed here today. Language links in the sidebar are coming from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.
Where can I find more information and ask questions? Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. It'd be great if you could bring this to this wiki if that has not already happened. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.
--Lydia Pintscher 6 di Mar 2013 a lis 22:57 (UTC)
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Updating the logo for this wiki
cambieHello! As part of the update of Wikipedias logos to the new (2010) 3D puzzle globe version, we have noticed that your wiki's current logo is missing, outdated or with wrong translation. We are trying to help Wikipedias get a locally-adapted correct logo, by taking the technical difficulties on us, and in about a week from now we'll be replacing the current logo with the new one shown in this gallery, with explanation. If the translation is wrong, or there's another error in the new logo, or the community disagrees with the update, please update the list of logos or tell us on its talk. Feel free to translate this message and to move/copy/forward it where appropriate. Thanks, Nemo 11 di Mar 2013 a lis 13:41 (UTC)
Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful
cambie(Please consider translating this message for the benefit of your fellow Wikimedians)
Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.
If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.
If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.
Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system. 13 di Mar 2013 a lis 19:34 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)
Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) coming to this Wikipedia
cambieSorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.
A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. It is soon time to enable the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) and things are looking good. The next step is English Wikipedia. This is planned for April 8. If everything works out fine we will deploy on all remaining Wikipedias on April 10. I will update this part of the FAQ if there are any issues forcing us to change this date. I will also sent another note to this village pump once the deployment is finished.
What will happen once we have phase 2 enabled here? Once it is enabled in a few days you will be able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!)
How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:
- Use a parser function like {{#property:p169}} in the wiki text of the article on Yahoo!. This will return “Marissa Mayer” as she is the chief executive officer of the company.
- For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.
We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:chief executive officer}} instead of {{#property:p169}}. The complete plan for this is here.
Where can I test this? You can already test it on test2.
Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.
--Lydia Pintscher 5 di Avr 2013 a lis 16:53 (UTC)
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- Richiesta di pareri sugli amministratori inattivi
(Per piacere traduci questo messaggio anche per i tuoi colleghi Wikimediani. Se possibile traduci anche la proposta stessa.)
Read this message in English / Lleer esti mensaxe n'asturianu / বাংলায় এই বার্তাটি পড়ুন / Llegiu aquest missatge en català / Læs denne besked på dansk / Lies diese Nachricht auf Deutsch / Leś cal mesag' chè in Emiliàn / Leer este mensaje en español / Lue tämä viesti suomeksi / Lire ce message en français / Ler esta mensaxe en galego / हिन्दी / Pročitajte ovu poruku na hrvatskom / Baca pesan ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia / Leggi questo messaggio in italiano / ಈ ಸಂದೇಶವನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿ / Aqra dan il-messaġġ bil-Malti / norsk (bokmål) / Lees dit bericht in het Nederlands / Przeczytaj tę wiadomość po polsku / Citiți acest mesaj în română / Прочитать это сообщение на русском / Farriintaan ku aqri Af-Soomaali / Pročitaj ovu poruku na srpskom (Прочитај ову поруку на српском) / อ่านข้อความนี้ในภาษาไทย / Прочитати це повідомлення українською мовою / Đọc thông báo bằng tiếng Việt / 使用中文阅读本信息。
Ciao!
C'è una nuova richiesta di pareri su Meta-Wiki che riguarda la rimozione dei diritti di amministratore per i Wikimediani inattivi da lungo tempo. Tale proposta verrebbe messa in atto, in linea di massima, dagli Steward sulle wiki prive di alcun sistema di riconferma o decadenza per inattività.
Stiamo anche compilando una lista di progetti con procedure per rimuovere gli amministratori inattivi dalla talk page della richiesta di commento. Non esitare ad aggiungere il tuo/i progetto/i alla lista, se hai una regola da proporre sull'inattività dell'amministratore.
Ogni parere è gradito. La discussione dovrebbe concludersi intorno al 21 maggio 2013 (21/05/2013), ma se necessario potrebbe essere prolungata.
Grazie, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 24 di Avr 2013 a lis 04:40 (UTC)
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Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) is here
cambieSorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.
A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. We have now enabled the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) a month ago and two days ago on the English Wikipedia. Today all the remaining Wikipedias followed.
What does having phase 2 enabled here mean? You are now able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!) The current state is just the beginning though. It will be extended based on feedback we get from you now.
How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:
- Use a parser function like {{#property:p159}} in the wiki text of the article on Wikimedia Foundation. This will return “San Francisco” as that is the headquarter location of the non-profit.
- For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.
We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:headquarter location}} instead of {{#property:p159}}. The complete plan for this is here.
Where can I test this? You can test it on test2 if you don't want to do it in an article here.
Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.
We are excited about taking yet another step towards allowing all Wikipedias share structured data and collect and curate it together.
--Lydia Pintscher 24 di Avr 2013 a lis 19:07 (UTC)
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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming
cambieSome accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.
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[en] Change to section edit links
cambieThe default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.
Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.
Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.
Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.
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Tech newsletter: Subscribe to receive the next editions
cambie- Recent software changes
- (Not all changes will affect you.)
- The latest version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf4) was added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 13, and to the English Wikipedia (with a Wikidata software update) on May 20. It will be updated on all other Wikipedia sites on May 22. [9] [10]
- A software update will perhaps result in temporary issues with images. Please report any problems you notice. [11]
- MediaWiki recognizes links in twelve new schemes. Users can now link to SSH, XMPP and Bitcoin directly from wikicode. [12]
- VisualEditor was added to all content namespaces on mediawiki.org on May 20. [13]
- A new extension ("TemplateData") was added to all Wikipedia sites on May 20. It will allow a future version of VisualEditor to edit templates. [14]
- New sites: Greek Wikivoyage and Venetian Wiktionary joined the Wikimedia family last week; the total number of project wikis is now 794. [15] [16]
- The logo of 18 Wikipedias was changed to version 2.0 in a third group of updates. [17]
- The UploadWizard on Commons now shows links to the old upload form in 55 languages (bug 33513). [18]
- Future software changes
- The next version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf5) will be added to Wikimedia sites starting on May 27. [19]
- An updated version of Notifications, with new features and fewer bugs, will be added to the English Wikipedia on May 23. [20]
- The final version of the "single user login" (which allows people to use the same username on different Wikimedia wikis) is moved to August 2013. The software will automatically rename some usernames. [21]
- A new discussion system for MediaWiki, called "Flow", is under development. Wikimedia designers need your help to inform other users, test the prototype and discuss the interface. [22].
- The Wikimedia Foundation is hiring people to act as links between software developers and users for VisualEditor. [23]
If you want to continue to receive the next issues every week, please subscribe to the newsletter. You can subscribe your personal talk page and a community page like this one. The newsletter can be translated into your language.
You can also become a tech ambassador, help us write the next newsletter and tell us what to improve. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. guillom 20 di Mai 2013 a lis 20:34 (UTC)1
cambie.
Mûs di dì
cambieO varés vôe di savě le origin dal mût di dì " ..chel dal formadi" Grasie
Trademark discussion
cambieHi, apologies for posting this in English, but I wanted to alert your community to a discussion on Meta about potential changes to the Wikimedia Trademark Policy. Please translate this statement if you can. We hope that you will all participate in the discussion; we also welcome translations of the legal team’s statement into as many languages as possible and encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please see the Trademark practices discussion (on Meta-Wiki) for more information. Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF) (talk)
Testo dello statuto - vocali accentate
cambieSe faccio un copia-incolla dello Statuto le vocali accentate non vengono riprese. C'è qualche trucco per evitare di riprenderle a mano? Invece per questo regolamento il problema non si ripete vedi s:it:Regolament pe concession dai contribûts pe promozion de lenghe furlane. Vedi anche s:it:Leç regjonâl 22 di Març dal 1996, nr. 15 "Normis pe tutele e pe promotsion de lenghe e de culture furlanis. Ne approfitto anche per chiedere a chi conosce la lingua di rileggere i testi e a dare una mano per editare le leggi disponibili--Mizardellorsa (discussioni) 14 di Jug 2013 a lis 07:32 (UTC)
Free Research Accounts from Leading Medical Publisher. Come and Sign up!
cambiegets Wikipedia editors free access to reliable sources that are behind paywalls. I want to alert you to our latest donation.
- Cochrane Collaboration is an independent medical nonprofit organization that conducts systematic reviews of randomized controlled trials of health-care interventions, which it then publishes in the Cochrane Library.
- Cochrane has generously agreed to give free, full-access accounts to medical editors. Individual access would otherwise cost between $300 and $800 per account.
- If you are active as a medical editor, come and sign up :)
Cheers, 16 di Jug 2013 a lis 21:03 (UTC)
Cochrane Library Sign-up (correct link)
cambieMy apologies for the incorrect link: You can sign up for ' accounts at the . Cheers, 16 di Jug 2013 a lis 21:38 (UTC)
(Sorry for writing in English. You can translate the proposal.)
Should X!'s edit counter retain the opt-in requirement? Your input is strongly encouraged. Voice your input here.—cyberpower ChatAutomation 23 di Jug 2013 a lis 04:27 (UTC)
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VisualEditor
cambieCiao a tutti. Sto passando nelle wiki delle lingue parlate in Italia per annunciare una novità che molto probabilmente non conoscete ancora: si chiama VisualEditor. Sarà la nuova interfaccia per creare e modificare testi nei nostri siti, e dalla versione beta in poi (che arriverà tra qualche tempo) renderà molto più semplice editare, il che potrebbe voler dire più utenti che arrivano, provano a scrivere, restano nella comunità. Per provarlo potete attivarlo subito tramite la pagina "Preferenze", nell'equivalente della sezione "Casella di modifica", selezionando l'opzione Abilita VisualEditor (solo nei namespace principale e Utente). Solo se per il momento si desidera continuare a usare l'editor tradizionale per la modifica di singole sezioni, si può spuntare anche la casella Utilizza l'editor di wikitesto per modificare le sezioni. Io faccio da referente per la comunità italofona, e perciò, per come la vedo io, anche per voi: se avete bisogno di aiuto o volete segnalare un bug scrivetemi qui, così cercheremo di risolvere eventuali problematiche il prima possibile e anche questa wiki sarà pronta nel momento in cui la transizione sarà completata. Vi lascio infine i link alle FAQ e al Manuale, e spero di avere presto vostre notizie. Ciao, --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 24 di Jug 2013 a lis 14:20 (UTC)
- Ciao, nel segnalarvi che è stata scritta una nuova pagina di spiegazioni su VE, Cosa cambia, e che sono partiti i lavori di adeguamento dei template (che occorreranno anche qui), vi invito sia a usare questa come pagina centralizzata per qualsiasi feedback, sia ad attivarvi per tradurre nella lingua di questa wiki almeno qualcuna di queste pagine che aiuteranno molto i vostri utenti, soprattutto i primi tempi. Ci si rilegge su it.wiki! --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 15 di Lui 2013 a lis 22:32 (UTC)
Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09
cambieOn July 9, 2013, Universal Language Selector (ULS) will be enabled on this wiki. The ULS provides a flexible way to configure and deliver language settings like interface language, fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). Making it available here is the last phase of making ULS available on all Wikimedia wikis.
Please read the announcement on Meta-Wiki for more information. Siebrand 4 di Lui 2013 a lis 12:27 (UTC) (via Global message delivery).
dulà sono i TRASTOLONS
cambiemandi a ducj. o ai cirut ta enciclopedie ma no o cjati i trastolons, poets cence lez par une lenghe caraibiche .... e si che a son in vore dal 1996 ....
Pywikipedia is migrating to git
cambieHello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 23 di Lui 2013 a lis 13:13 (UTC)
Caratteri speciali & VisualEditor
cambieCiao a tutti, per chi ancora non lo sapesse nella seconda metà del mese dovrebbe essere attivato di default anche su questa wiki "VisualEditor", il nuovo editor visuale di Wikipedia, che potete già vedere in funzione per esempio su en.wiki (o anche su questa wiki se lo attivate dalle vostre preferenze). VisualEditor affiancherà l'editor classico che abbiamo usato finora, VisualEditor però manca dei caratteri speciali, il che per wiki come questa è un bel problema, problema che però può essere risolto grazie ad un'altra estensione di recente attivata su tutte le wiki: Universal Language Selector. Su vec.wiki siamo già a buon punto per quanto riguarda la soluzione al problema mediante quest'estensione dato che ci resta solo l'ultimo passaggio (ovvero l'effettiva richiesta, che non abbiamo ben capito se va fatta su Bugzilla o altrove... abbiamo chiesto info a chi dovrebbe saperlo ed appena avremo una risposta aggiornerò questa discussione). Nel frattempo invito anche la vostra comunità a discutere le combinazioni di carattere da usare in vista della preparazione del codice; ovviamente sempre se siete interessati ad usare questo semplice metodo che risolve il problema della mancanza dei suddetti caratteri sul nuovo editor ma che facilita la vita anche a chi continuerà ad usare il vecchio editor.
Per prima cosa direi che serve un elenco dei caratteri che non trovate sulla tastiera ma che sono essenziali per scrivere nella vostra lingua. Poi una volta che c'è l'elenco si discute la miglior combinazione di caratteri, per es. su vec.wiki abbiamo deciso che per ottenere đ si scriverà dh (funziona così, tu digiti la combinazione, in questo caso dh ed il sistema te lo convertirà automaticamente nel carattere scelto, nel nostro caso đ... il che è molto più pratico che andare a pescare ogni volta il carattere dai "Caratteri speciali"). Una volta definita la combinazione si può preparare il codice (basterà modificare ad hoc quello preparato per vec.wiki).--GatoSelvadego (discussioni) 6 di Avo 2013 a lis 10:34 (UTC)
- Giusto per segnalare che su le wiki vec stiamo usando da qualche giorno il nuovo e comodo modo di inserimento dei caratteri speciali. Se vi serve (e direi di si visto che di caratteri non presenti nelle tastiere ne usate pure voi) e se siete interessati ad una soluzione simile anche per la vostra wiki fatemi un fischio che sono a vostra disposizione.--GatoSelvadego (discussioni) 25 di Fev 2014 a lis 16:11 (UTC)
HTTPS for users with an account
cambieGreetings. Starting on August 21 (tomorrow), all users with an account will be using HTTPS to access Wikimedia sites. HTTPS brings better security and improves your privacy. More information is available at m:HTTPS.
If HTTPS causes problems for you, tell us on bugzilla, on IRC (in the #wikimedia-operations
channel) or on meta. If you can't use the other methods, you can also send an e-mail to https@wikimedia.org
.
Greg Grossmeier (via the Global message delivery system). 20 di Avo 2013 a lis 19:05 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)
First, I’d like to apologize for the English. If you can, please help to translate this for other members of your community.
The legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation would greatly appreciate your input on the best way to manage the "community logo" (pictured here) to best balance protection of the projects with community support. Accordingly, they have created a “request for consultation” on Meta where they set out briefly some of the issues to be considered and the options that they perceive. Your input would be invaluable in helping guide them in how best to serve our mission.
Thank you! --Mdennis (talk) (via the Global message delivery system). 24 di Set 2013 a lis 02:27 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)
(This message is in English, please translate as needed)
Greetings!
Notifications will inform users about new activity that affects them on this wiki in a unified way: for example, this new tool will let you know when you have new talk page messages, edit reverts, mentions or links -- and is designed to augment (rather than replace) the watchlist. The Wikimedia Foundation's editor engagement team developed this tool (code-named 'Echo') earlier this year, to help users contribute more productively to MediaWiki projects.
We're now getting ready to bring Notifications to almost all other Wikimedia sites, and are aiming for a 22 October deployment, as outlined in this release plan. It is important that notifications is translated for all of the languages we serve.
There are three major points of translation needed to be either done or checked:
- Echo on translatewiki for user interface - you must have an account on translatewiki to translate
- Thanks on translatewiki for user interface - you must have an account on translatewiki to translate
- Notifications help on mediawiki.org. This page can be hosted after translation on mediawiki.org or we can localize it to this Wikipedia. You do not have to have an account to translate on mediawiki, but single-user login will create it for you there if you follow the link.
Please let us know if you have any questions, suggestions or comments about this new tool. For more information, visit this project hub and this help page. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 4 di Otu 2013 a lis 18:33 (UTC)
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Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.
cambieHi all,
Please join the consultation about the Community logo that represents Meta-Wiki: m:Community Logo/Request for consultation.
This community consultation was commenced on September 24. The following day, two individuals filed a legal opposition against the registration of the Community logo.
The question is whether the Wikimedia Foundation should seek a collective membership mark with respect to this logo or abandon its registration and protection of the trademark.
We want to make sure that everyone get a chance to speak up so that we can get clear direction from the community. We would therefore really appreciate the community's help in translating this announcement from English so that everyone is able to understand it.
Introducting Beta Features
cambie(Apologies for writing in English. Please translate if necessary)
We would like to let you know about Beta Features, a new program from the Wikimedia Foundation that lets you try out new features before they are released for everyone.
Think of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming software and give feedback to help improve them. This special preference page lets designers and engineers experiment with new features on a broad scale, but in a way that's not disruptive.
Beta Features is now ready for testing on MediaWiki.org. It will also be released on Wikimedia Commons and MetaWiki this Thursday, 7 November. Based on test results, the plan is to release it on all wikis worldwide on 21 November, 2013.
Here are the first features you can test this week:
- Media Viewer — view images in large size or full screen
- VisualEditor Formulæ (for wikis with VisualEditor) — edit algebra or equations on your pages
- Typography Refresh — make text more readable (coming Thursday)
Would you like to try out Beta Features now? After you log in on MediaWiki.org, a small 'Beta' link will appear next to your 'Preferences'. Click on it to see features you can test, check the ones you want, then click 'Save'. Learn more on the Beta Features page.
After you've tested Beta Features, please let the developers know what you think on this discussion page -- or report any bugs here on Bugzilla. You're also welcome to join this IRC office hours chat on Friday, 8 November at 18:30 UTC.
Beta Features was developed by the Wikimedia Foundation's Design, Multimedia and VisualEditor teams. Along with other developers, they will be adding new features to this experimental program every few weeks. They are very grateful to all the community members who helped create this project — and look forward to many more productive collaborations in the future.
Enjoy, and don't forget to let developers know what you think! Keegan (WMF) (talk) 5 di Nov 2013 a lis 19:55 (UTC)
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VisualEditor in arrivo su questa wiki
cambieCiao a tutti. VisualEditor arriverà su questo progetto il 2 dicembre 2013. Come anticipato nei mesi scorsi, VisualEditor è un software in fase di sviluppo che permette agli utenti di modificare le pagine di questo sito senza imparare prima la “wikisintassi” (ad es. [[ e ]] per linkare a un’altra pagina). E’ già disponibile e attivo su molte altre Wikipedia (ad es., oltre a quella in italiano, quelle in napolitano, siciliano e veneto), e in realtà potreste già averlo testato anche qui abilitandolo dalle Preferenze come suggeritovi in passato. Per ulteriori informazioni si può leggere comunque questa pagina.
Una volta che il software sarà attivato potrete scegliere se usare VE o l’editor tradizionale. Cliccando su “Modifica” sarà lanciato VisualEditor; per usare l’editor classico invece basterà premere “Modifica sorgente”. E’ a vostra disposizione un manuale apposito per imparare a usare correttamente VE.
Ci auguriamo che il software sia utile a editor attuali e futuri di questa comunità, e ci servirebbe proprio il vostro aiuto per migliorarlo! Per favore, comunicateci eventuali difficoltà riscontrate durante l’utilizzo. Se ve la sentite, potete riportare il problema su Bugzilla usando la nuova procedura guidata semplificata. Altrimenti, descrivetelo pure sulla pagina centrale di feedback su MediaWiki.org. Se notate malfunzionamenti particolarmente gravi sul vostro progetto, potete invece segnalarceli direttamente: potete lasciare un messaggio sulla mia pagina di discussione oppure, se si tratta di un’emergenza (ad es. un bug che di punto in bianco inizia a corrompere tutte le voci quando queste vengono modificate con VisualEditor), potete scrivere a James Forrester, il Product Manager, all’indirizzo jforrester@wikimedia.org.
Se ne avete la possibilità, per favore testate il nuovo editor sin d’ora. Questo ci permetterà di venire a conoscenza di problemi specifici di questa Wikipedia prima del lancio. Per abilitarlo, basta andare sulle proprie “Preferenze” → “Casella di Modifica” → “Abilita VisualEditor”. cliccare sul link Beta (reperibile in alto su ogni pagina), e assicurarsi che il segno di spunta su VisualEditor sia presente.
Apprezzeremmo molto il vostro aiuto con le traduzioni di pagine relative a VisualEditor (qui e/o su MediaWiki.org) e dell’interfaccia utente. Per dettagli si può consultare la VisualEditor TranslationCentral. Per tradurre l’interfaccia, basta creare un account su TranslateWiki (se non se ne possiede già uno). Una volta che la richiesta dell’account viene approvata, non resta che selezionare la propria lingua da questa lista. Apparirà così una lista di messaggi: da una parte ci sarà l’originale in inglese, dall’altra l’opzione per modificare, che aprirà una finestra nella quale lavorare. Infine, un accenno alla guida dell’utente, un altro documento importante. Per tradurlo, si può semplicemente cliccare su questa pagina, e selezionare “Traduci questa pagina”. La vostra lingua sarà raggiungibile dal menù a tendina sulla destra. Se volete dare una mano con le traduzioni e discuterne, lasciatemi pure un messaggio nella mia pagina utente.
Grazie, e buon editing a tutti! --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 16 di Nov 2013 a lis 12:06 (UTC)
PS: Rispetto a quest’estate c’è peraltro la grossa novità rappresentata dalla possibilità di passare direttamente da VE all’editor tradizionale (senza cioè dover salvare prima); il che permetterà non solo di apportare tutte le modifiche desiderate e di poter avvistare e correggere più facilmente eventuali errori, ma fungerà anche da escamotage temporaneo per quanto riguarda eventuali problemi con caratteri da inserire non presenti sulla vostra tastiera, perché terminando l'edit con l'editor tradizionale potrete selezionarli ad es. dalla tendina "Special Characters" in alto. Se invece la mia valutazione non fosse corretta, e in generale per segnalare problematicità che devono essere risolte prima dell'arrivo di VE, vi rinnovo l'invito a contattarmi tempestivamente in pagina di discussione. Grazie!
- Aggiornamento: le traduzioni dell'interfaccia sono ancora ferme sullo 0%, vi incoraggio a iniziarle prima di lunedì a beneficio della comunità di lingua friulana. Allo stesso modo, il vostro aiuto è indispensabile per la traduzione delle pagine qui indicate. Buon lavoro! --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 28 di Nov 2013 a lis 17:15 (UTC)
Call for comments on draft trademark policy
cambieHi all,
The Wikimedia legal team invites you to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark policy.
The current trademark policy was introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia marks. We are now updating this policy to better balance permissive use of the marks with the legal requirements for preserving them for the community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review here, and we encourage you to discuss it here.
We would appreciate if someone would translate this message into your language so more members of your community can contribute to the conversation.
Reminder: office hour per VisualEditor
cambieCiao, vi segnalo le office hour previste per VE questo mese (una mercoledì 15, l'altra il 22). Eventuali domande possono essere lasciate qui sotto o nella mia talk. Grazie e a presto, --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 9 di Zen 2014 a lis 22:14 (UTC)
Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?
cambieI apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.
The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.
Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).
However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.
We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.
Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.
All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.
You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.
We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16 di Zen 2014 a lis 06:47 (UTC)
Richiesta di commenti: strumento per l'aggiunta di caratteri speciali in VisualEditor
cambieCiao, è stato appena aggiunto uno strumento per l'aggiunta di caratteri speciali quando si edita con VisualEditor. Se avete tempo, per favore, provatelo e fate sapere agli sviluppatori cosa ne pensate.
Gli sviluppatori apprezzerebbero molto se lasciaste un messaggio con il vostro feedback e la/e lingua/e usata/e per il test in questo thread su Mediawiki.org. E' davvero importante sentire i pareri di quante più persone possibile. Grazie! Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 24 di Zen 2014 a lis 18:16 (UTC)
- Ciao, nel riportare la vostra attenzione sull'argomento, vi propongo alcune domande specifiche del Product Manager di VisualEditor.
- Dovremmo limitarci a mostrare l'intero set di caratteri presenti nello strumento "Caratteri speciali" nella toolbar dell'editor di wikitesto?
- Se sì, non sarà eccessivo? Come farete a trovare il carattere che cercate? Cosa dovremmo fare per gli utenti che non hanno abbastanza spazio per visualizzare tutto?
- Dovrebbe esserci una sezione "prioritaria" per quella dozzina o poco più di caratteri più usati regolarmente? Va bene un click in più per andare oltre un set così limitato?
- Come dovrebbero essere suddivise le sezioni? Dovrebbero essere annidate? Ordinate?
- Come si dovrebbe poter navigare tra le sezioni? Dovrebbe esserci un menù a scomparsa? Un menù annidato (cioè, con sotto-menù)?
- Lo strumento dovrebbe essere disponibile permanentemente finché non viene nascosto? Dovrebbe apparire vicino al mouse? Dovrebbe sparire dopo ogni selezione, o 10 secondi dopo una selezione se non ne avvengono altre nel frattempo?
- La toolbar ha già troppe opzioni - come la semplifichiamo?
- Grazie a tutti per il vostro impegno nel testare VE! Se l'inglese è il vostro pane quotidiano, rispondete direttamente su mw:VisualEditor/Feedback; altrimenti fatevi sentire qui. A presto, --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 12 di Fev 2014 a lis 17:03 (UTC)
IMPORTANT: Admin activity review
cambieHello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was recently adopted by global community consensus (your community received a notice about the discussion). According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the new admin activity review here.
We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):
- Klenje (bureaucrat, administrator)
These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.
However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, QuiteUnusual (discussioni) 31 di Zen 2014 a lis 12:20 (UTC)
Office hours in arrivo
cambieCiao, anche questo mese sono previsti degli "orari di ricevimento" :) durante i quali è possibile chiacchierare di VisualEditor insieme al suo Product Manager, James Forrester, e altri membri del team. Il primo è previsto per sabato 15 alle 17 UTC, ossia le 18 italiane, mentre il successivo si terrà poche ore dopo (vedere Meta per dettagli e link alla chat). Chi non si trova a suo agio con l'inglese o non può partecipare può lasciare eventuali domande qui. Di solito l'evento è abbastanza affollato e si tende a dare la precedenza ai partecipanti, anche perché così è senz'altro più semplice per James e altri ottenere a loro volta dei chiarimenti, ma in genere si riesce a far pervenire a ognuno una risposta in qualche modo, fosse anche in privato. Il registro della chat è pubblico e visibile a partire da poche ore dopo che questa si è tenuta. Grazie per l'attenzione, --Elitre (WMF) (discussioni) 10 di Fev 2014 a lis 13:04 (UTC)
Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014
cambieOn January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.
We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.
You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa
Amendment to the Terms of Use
cambieHello all,
Please join a discussion about a proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use regarding undisclosed paid editing and we encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please translate this statement if you can, and we welcome you to translate the proposed amendment and introduction. Please see the discussion on Meta Wiki for more information. Thank you! Slaporte (WMF) 21 di Fev 2014 a lis 22:00 (UTC)
Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments
cambieI apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.
Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Vichipedie better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.
Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:
- Organizing social media for Chinese Wikipedia ($350 for materials)
- Improving gadgets for Visual Editor ($4500 for developers)
- Coordinating access to reliable sources for Wikipedians ($7500 for project management, consultants and materials)
- Building community and strategy for Wikisource (€10000 for organizing and travel)
Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!
Hope to have your participation,
--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 28 di Fev 2014 a lis 19:44 (UTC)
- In italiano se ne parla qui. Ciao, --Elitre (discussioni) 1 di Mar 2014 a lis 14:21 (UTC)
Office hour di marzo per VisualEditor
cambieCiao a tutti. Potete partecipare alla prossima office hour con James Forrester, Product Manager di VisualEditor, collegandovi a IRC lunedì 17 marzo alle 15:00 UTC per un dibattito sullo stato attuale dell'editor e sugli sviluppi previsti nell'immediato futuro. Ricordate di farmi pervenire una notifica (copincollando il wikicodice del mio nome utente o scrivendomi in pagina di discussione) quando avete bisogno della mia attenzione per VisualEditor su questa wiki. Grazie e a presto! --Elitre (WMF) (talk)
Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment
cambieCatalan Culture Challenge
cambieI apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.
The Catalan-speaking world... Want to find out more? From March 16 to April 15 we will organise the Catalan Culture Challenge, a Wikipedia editing contest in which victory will go to those who start and improve the greatest number of articles about 50 key figures of Catalan culture. You can take part by creating or expanding articles on these people in your native language (or any other one you speak). It would be lovely to have you on board. :-)
We look forward to seeing you!
Amical Wikimedia--Kippelboy (discussioni) 15 di Mar 2014 a lis 17:28 (UTC)
Changes to the default site typography coming soon
cambieThis week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:
- April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
- April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live
This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.
For more information:
- Summary of changes and FAQ
- Discussion page for feedback or questions
- Post on blog.wikimedia.org
-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team
Importanti aggiornamenti relativi a VisualEditor
cambie- Ciao a tutti. Potete partecipare alla prossima office hour con James Forrester, Product Manager di VisualEditor, collegandovi a IRC sabato 19 aprile alle 20:00 UTC per un dibattito sullo stato attuale dell'editor e sugli sviluppi previsti nell'immediato futuro.
- VE è cambiato molto recentemente; se non ne eravate al corrente, significa che dovete proprio iscrivervi alle newsletter relative! Vedere qui per quella in italiano; c'è da dire però che quella in inglese viene pubblicata più spesso e soprattutto potete riceverla su questo sito oppure su Meta.
- Lo sapevate? Ci sono solo due pagine da consultare per controllare a che punto stanno le traduzioni nella vostra lingua relative a VisualEditor. Siete nella zona verde (bene!) o in quella rossa (male!)? Scopritelo subito, e poi cliccate su codice e nome della lingua per aggiornare le traduzioni!
- Interfaccia
- Pagine d'aiuto
- --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 7 di Avr 2014 a lis 17:30 (UTC)
Come mettere in cancellazione una pagina?
cambieCome si fa a chiedere la cancellazione di questa pagina? Per le motivazioni vedere it:Pagine_da_cancellare/Log/2014_aprile_8#Augusto_De_Luca. --Bramfab (discussioni) 15 di Avr 2014 a lis 09:20 (UTC)
- Fâs le richieste inte sô pagjine di discussion e spieghe il motîf. La cosa migliore è se inoltri la richiesta nella pagina di discussione della voce e spieghi, anche brevemente, il motivo per cui lo richiedi. Il link che hai messo alla wiki italiana mi pare non funzioni --Tocaibon (discussioni) 15 di Avr 2014 a lis 21:21 (UTC)
No one needs free knowledge in Esperanto
cambieThere is a current discussion on German Wikipedia on a decision of Asaf Bartov, Head of WMF Grants and Global South Partnerships, Wikimedia Foundation, who rejected a request for funding a proposal from wikipedians from eowiki one year ago with the explanation the existence, cultivation, and growth of the Esperanto Wikipedia does not advance our educational mission. No one needs free knowledge in Esperanto. On meta there has also started a discussion about that decision. --Holder (discussioni) 5 di Mai 2014 a lis 09:58 (UTC)
Importanti annunci relativi a VisualEditor
cambie- Sentitevi liberi di tradurre questo messaggio nella lingua di questa wiki, se lo ritenete opportuno. Grazie!
Ciao a tutti. Dal momento che la squadra dei Community Liaison di cui faccio parte viene reclutata su sempre più wiki e per altri software, vi annuncio alcuni cambiamenti in merito al nostro modo di relazionarci con le Wikipedia con le quali abbiamo tenuto i contatti sinora.
- Stiamo incoraggiando a lasciare commenti sulla pagina relativa di mediawiki.org, perché è quella che da ora in poi riceverà in modo centralizzato i feedback da pressoché tutte le Wikipedia, e che quindi l'intera squadra monitorerà per questo motivo. Apprezziamo comunque l'assistenza dei membri di questa comunità, e cogliamo l'occasione per ringraziare i più attivi per il prezioso supporto che sicuramente non ci faranno mancare anche in futuro! Se vedete richieste relative a VisualEditor su questa Wikipedia alle quali potete rispondere direttamente, o se volete invece tradurle in inglese e riportarle su mediawiki.org, siete davvero i benvenuti. Ad ogni modo, per agevolarvi ulteriormente anche sul piano linguistico, vi ricordo che avete comunque la possibilità di pormi direttamente i vostri quesiti su Wikipedia in italiano, in alternativa.
- Abbiamo esteso a tutte le Wikipedia la possibilità di ricevere la "newsletter globale", solitamente pubblicata su en.wiki. Iscrivetevi su Meta; questo bollettino includerà gli aggiornamenti e gli annunci più importanti, così vedrete meno messaggi da parte nostra su questa pagina. Pubblicheremo qui il prossimo numero; per ricevere i successivi invece aggiungete questa pagina o la vostra pagina di discussione utente (o entrambe!) alla lista dei destinatari. Potrete poi valutare se tradurre la comunicazione nella vostra lingua in modo che raggiunga ancora più persone. Anche in questo caso, se preferite potete anche iscrivervi al bollettino di VE per it.wiki, pubblicato meno frequentemente.
- Vi invitiamo a discutere dei recenti sviluppi e dei piani per il futuro di VisualEditor durante la prossima office hour di lunedì 19 maggio (ore 20 italiane) insieme a James Forrester (Product Manager). Se non potete partecipare ma vorreste comunque fargli una domanda potete lasciarla su mediawiki.org o sulla mia pagina di discussione entro il giorno prima e cercherò di ottenere una risposta. Contiamo di proseguire con queste sessioni mensili finché la comunità dimostrerà interesse.
- Vi ricordiamo infine che i modi per raggiungere i Community Liaison sono elencati sulle nostre rispettive pagine utente, e che un messaggio in pagina di discussione utente è sempre un ottimo modo per richiamare la nostra attenzione o semplicemente tenersi in contatto.
- Grazie per l'attenzione! Utente:Elitre (WMF) 9 di Mai 2014 a lis 14:32 (UTC)
VisualEditor global newsletter—May 2014
cambie
This is a one-time mailing to projects that may need this information. Future newsletters will be available as opt-in only. To receive future newsletters (about one per month), please add your page to the subscribers' list at m:VisualEditor/Newsletter. You're welcome to translate to your language.
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.
Did you know?
The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Inserisci" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.
Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.
- There is a new Beta Feature for setting content language and direction. This allows editors who have opted in to use the "Lenghe" tool in the "Inserisci" menu to add HTML span tags that label text with the language and as being left-to-right (LTR) or right-to-left (RTL), like this:
<span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>
. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis. - The tool for editing mathematics formulae in VisualEditor has been slightly updated and is now available to all users, as the "⧼math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title⧽" item in the "Inserisci" menu. It uses LaTeX like in the wikitext editor.
- The layout of template dialogs has been changed, putting the label above the field. Parameters are now called "fields", to avoid a technical term that many editors are unfamiliar with.
- TemplateData has been expanded: You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData, and VisualEditor will display them in the template dialogs like required ones. "Suggested" is recommended for parameters that are commonly used, but not actually required to make the template work. There is also a new type for TemplateData parameters: wiki-file-name, for file names. The template tool can now tell you if a parameter is marked as being obsolete.
- Some templates that previously displayed strangely due to absolute CSS positioning hacks should now display correctly.
- Several messages have changed: The notices shown when you save a page have been merged into those used in the wikitext editor, for consistency. The message shown when you "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cancel⧽" out of an edit is clearer. The beta dialog notice, which is shown the first time you open VisualEditor, will be hidden for logged-in users via a user preference rather than a cookie. As a result of this change, the beta notice will show up one last time for all logged-in users on their next VisualEditor use after Thursday's upgrade.
- Adding a category that is a redirect to another category prompts you to add the target category instead of the redirect.
- In the "Figuris e file multimediâi" dialog, it is no longer possible to set a redundant border for thumbnail and framed images.
- There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData. You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at Mediawiki.org: edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box. If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
- There have been multiple small changes to the appearance: External links are shown in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki. This is a lighter shade of blue than the internal links. The styling of the "Stîl dal test" (character formatting) drop-down menu has been synchronized with the recent font changes to the Vector skin. VisualEditor dialogs, such as the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽" dialog, now use a "loading" animation of moving lines, rather than animated GIF images. Other changes were made to the appearance upon opening a page in VisualEditor which should make the transition between reading and editing be smoother.
- The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
- At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.
Looking ahead: The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "Scorciatoie da tastiera" link will be moved out of the "Opzions de pagjine" menu, into the "Jutori" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 22 di Mai 2014 a lis 17:39 (UTC)
Media Viewer
cambie
Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.
I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.
Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 23 di Mai 2014 a lis 21:29 (UTC)
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Using only UploadWizard for uploads
cambieHello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.
Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have
- local "Cjame sù un file" restricted to the "Aministradôrs" group (for emergency uploads) and
- the sidebar point to commons:Special:UploadWizard,
so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.
All this will get done around 2014-07-03.
- If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
- To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.
Nemo 19 di Jug 2014 a lis 13:09 (UTC)
Media Viewer is now live on this wiki
cambie
Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,
The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.
Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.
If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.
Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.
We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 19 di Jug 2014 a lis 21:54 (UTC)
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Updates related to VisualEditor
cambie- Please help translate this message in your language. Thanks :)
Hi, everybody. This is a reminder that we invite you to discuss VisualEditor's recent development and plans ahead during the next office hours with James Forrester (Product Manager):
If you are not able to attend but have a question for James, you can leave your question at mediawiki.org or on my talk page by the day before, and I will try to get a response. We plan to continue these monthly sessions as long as there is community interest, and to announce them through the VisualEditor global newsletter as well (please subscribe your talk page there to get the latest news about the software).
Most of the VisualEditor team will be at Wikimania in London in August! You'll be able to meet the developers during the Hackaton or at the following sessions:
- VisualEditor — helping users edit more easily, Saturday, August 9;
- VisualEditor — engineering against the odds, Sunday, August 10.
WMF community liaisons will share a booth with community advocates at the Community Village and look forward to talking to you there. Thanks for your attention! --User:Elitre (WMF) 31 di Lui 2014 a lis 16:02 (UTC)
VisualEditor global newsletter—July and August 2014
cambieThe VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
- Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
- You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
- All references and footnotes (
<ref>
tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Inserisci" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "Inserisci" menu. - When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
- All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
- The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
- The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.
Looking ahead
cambieThe team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.
Feedback opportunities
cambieThe Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30. There is a VisualEditor Translation Sprint going on during Wikimania; whether you're in London or not, any contributions are welcome!
Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).
If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 9 di Avo 2014 a lis 14:40 (UTC)
Help for translate
cambieHello and sorry for writing in English. Can anyone help me translate a small article (2 paragraphs) from English to your language and create the article in your wiki? Please, fell free to answer in my talk page in your wiki anytime. Thanks! Xaris333 (discussioni) 12 di Avo 2014 a lis 23:21 (UTC)
Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions
cambieThe Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.
If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.
Process ideas for software development
cambie’’My apologies for writing in English.’’
Hello,
I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.
I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.
Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 21 di Avo 2014 a lis 22:15 (UTC)
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Grants to improve your project
cambie- Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.
Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.
- Submit your proposal
- Get help: In IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session MediaWiki message delivery (discussioni) 2 di Set 2014 a lis 16:52 (UTC)
VisualEditor available on Internet Explorer 11
cambieVisualEditor will become available to users of Microsoft Internet Explorer 11 during today's regular software update. Support for some earlier versions of Internet Explorer is being worked on. If you encounter problems with VisualEditor on Internet Explorer, please contact the Editing team by leaving a message at VisualEditor/Feedback on Mediawiki.org. Happy editing, Elitre (WMF) 11 di Set 2014 a lis 07:29 (UTC).
PS. Please subscribe to the global monthly newsletter to receive further news about VisualEditor.
Monuments of Spain Challenge
cambieExcuse me for not speaking Friulian yet.
Wikimedia España invites you to join the Monuments of Spain Challenge. And what’s that? It’s a contest. You have to edit, translate or expand articles about the Spanish monuments and you will be granted points. So you’re not just writing about wonderful buildings: you can get prizes!
The time of the contest will include all October and any information you may need is right here.
Join in and good luck!
PS: We would be grateful if you could translate this note into Friulian.
B25es on behalf of Wikimedia España.
VisualEditor News #8—2014
cambieSince the last newsletter, the Editing team has reduced technical debt, simplified some workflows for template and citation editing, made major progress on Internet Explorer support, and fixed over 125 bugs and requests. Several performance improvements were made, especially to the system around re-using references and reference lists. Weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org.
There were three issues that required urgent fixes: a deployment error that meant that many buttons didn't work correctly (bugs 69856 and 69864), a problem with edit conflicts that left the editor with nowhere to go (bug 69150), and a problem in Internet Explorer 11 that replaced some categories with a link to the system message MediaWiki:Badtitletext (bug 70894) when you saved. The developers apologize for the disruption, and thank the people who reported these problems quickly.
Increased support for devices and browsers
cambieInternet Explorer 10 and 11 users now have access to VisualEditor. This means that about 5% of Wikimedia's users will now get an "Edit" tab alongside the existing "Edit source" tab. Support for Internet Explorer 9 is planned for the future.
Tablet users browsing the site's mobile mode now have the option of using a mobile-specific form of VisualEditor. More editing tools, and availability of VisualEditor on smartphones, is planned for the future. The mobile version of VisualEditor was tweaked to show the context menu for citations instead of basic references (bug 68897). A bug that broke the editor in iOS was corrected and released early (bug 68949). For mobile tablet users, three bugs related to scrolling were fixed (bug 66697, bug 68828, bug 69630). You can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia from your tablet by clicking on the cog in the top-right when editing a page and choosing which editor to use.
TemplateData editor
cambieThe tool for editing TemplateData has been deployed to 30 more Wikipedias this week. Other Wikipedias and some other projects may receive access next month. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template page or a subpage, and then click the "Modifica dati del modello" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
Other changes
cambieSeveral interface messages and labels were changed to be simpler, clearer, or shorter, based on feedback from translators and editors. The formatting of dialogs was changed, and more changes to the appearance will be coming soon, when VisualEditor implements the new MediaWiki theme from Design. (A preview of the theme is available on Labs for developers.) The team also made some improvements for users of the Monobook skin that improved the size of text in toolbars and fixed selections that overlapped menus.
VisualEditor-MediaWiki now supplies the mw-redirect
and mw-disambig
class on links to redirects and disambiguation pages, so that user gadgets that colour in these types of links can be created.
Templates' fields can be marked as 'required
' in TemplateData. If a parameter is marked as required, then you cannot delete that field when you add a new template or edit an existing one (bug 60358).
Language support improved by making annotations use bi-directional isolation (so they display correctly with cursoring behaviour as expected) and by fixing a bug that crashed VisualEditor when trying to edit a page with a dir
attribute but no lang
set (bug 69955).
Looking ahead
cambieThe team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon, perhaps in late October.
The team is also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables, and early work for this may appear within the month. Please comment on the design at Mediawiki.org.
In the future, real-time collaborative editing may be possible in VisualEditor. Some early preparatory work for this was recently done.
Supporting your wiki
cambieAt Wikimania, several developers gave presentations about VisualEditor. A translation sprint focused on improving access to VisualEditor was supported by many people. Deryck Chan was the top translator. Special honors also go to संजीव कुमार (Sanjeev Kumar), Robby, Takot, Bachounda, Bjankuloski06 and Ата. A summary of the work achieved by the translation community is available. Thank you all for your work.
This was the first translatable VisualEditor newsletter, so thanks to everybody who made this possible! If it hasn't been delivered in your language, and you'd like to help with translations in the future, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre (WMF), so that you will be notified when the next issue is due.
VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
Please join the office hours on Saturday, 18 October 2014 at 18:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Africa and Europe) and on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC on IRC.
Give feedback on VisualEditor at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF)
13 di Otu 2014 a lis 09:49 (UTC)
Meta RfCs on two new global groups
cambieThere are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.
We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.
It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.
Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 26 di Otu 2014 a lis 18:04 (UTC)Hello, Dear wikipedians. I invite you to edit and improve this article and to add information about your and other country.--Kaiyr (discussioni) 31 di Otu 2014 a lis 11:39 (UTC)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Now Available (November 2014)
cambieApologies for writing in English, please help translate this into your local language. Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for:
- DeGruyter: 1000 new accounts for English and German-language research. Sign up on one of two language Wikipedias:
- Fold3: 100 new accounts for American history and military archives
- Scotland's People: 100 new accounts for Scottish genealogy database
- British Newspaper Archive: expanded by 100+ accounts for British newspapers
- Highbeam: 100+ remaining accounts for newspaper and magazine archives
- Questia: 100+ remaining accounts for journal and social science articles
- JSTOR: 100+ remaining accounts for journal archives
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team.5 di Nov 2014 a lis 23:19 (UTC)
- You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
Global AbuseFilter
cambieAbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.
Thanks,
PiRSquared17, Glaisher— 14 di Nov 2014 a lis 17:34 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #9—2014
cambieDid you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.
Recent improvements
cambieBasic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in them was just introduced to Wikipedias. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be added later.
To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus are now hidden behind a "Altri" item, such as "Sotlineât" in the styling menu.
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias this week, and the following week at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar menus are now shown in the menus.
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience/Design group. The appearance of dialog boxes has already changed in the mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. You are welcome to compare the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search engine could not find the page. A link inside a template to a local page that does not exist will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to an error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [24] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
TemplateData
cambieThe tool for quickly editing TemplateData has been deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool was already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Modifica dati del modello" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData to learn more about it. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common value for that parameter. The autovalue can be overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog box in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "consigliato" or "facoltativo" in TemplateData instead.
Recent improvements
cambieBasic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in them was just introduced to Wikipedias. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be added later.
To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus are now hidden behind a "Altri" item, such as "Sotlineât" in the styling menu.
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias this week, and the following week at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar menus are now shown in the menus.
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience/Design group. The appearance of dialog boxes has already changed in the mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. You are welcome to compare the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search engine could not find the page. A link inside a template to a local page that does not exist will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to an error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [25] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
TemplateData
cambieThe tool for quickly editing TemplateData has been deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool was already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Modifica dati del modello" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData to learn more about it. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common value for that parameter. The autovalue can be overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog box in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "consigliato" or "facoltativo" in TemplateData instead.
Looking ahead
cambieThe VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide is being updated to add information about editing tables. The translations of the user guide for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.
You can influence VisualEditor's design! Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF)
14 di Nov 2014 a lis 23:29 (UTC)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Now Available (December 2014)
cambieApologies for writing in English, please help translate this into your local language. Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
- Elsevier - science and medicine journals and books
- Royal Society of Chemistry - chemistry journals
- Pelican Books - ebook monographs
- Public Catalogue Foundation- art books
Other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team.18 di Dic 2014 a lis 00:22 (UTC)
- You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
VisualEditor News #10—2014
cambieDid you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).
Recent improvements
cambieBasic support for editing tables is now available. You can add and delete tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan
and colspan
elements, instead of trying to repair them.
You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ^ Ctrl
+F
or ⌘ Cmd
+F
.
You can now create and edit simple <blockquote>
paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraf" into a "Blocco citazione".
Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "*
" will make the line a bullet list; "1.
" or "#
" will make it a numbered list; "==
" will make it a section heading; ":
" will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change.
There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[
" for opening the link tool, and "{{
" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ^ Ctrl
+K
to open the link editor, still work.
If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.
You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.
Looking ahead
cambieThe current VisualEditor design will be replaced with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at mediawiki.org in late December and on other sites in early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)
The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January.
Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.
Let's work together
cambie- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
- Translations of the user guide for most languages are outdated. Only Ukrainian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, and Dutch translations are nearly current. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language.
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC.
- File requests for language-appropriate "Neret" and "Corsîf" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
26 di Dic 2014 a lis 18:59 (UTC)